Week 29 - ITF ($15K) - Dijon, France Hard

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Week 29 - ITF ($15K) - Dijon, France Hard

AliBlahBlah · All-time great

One of Tiffany's top 3 best ever wins by ranking

Strongbow · All-time great

Tiffany cuts the mustard and is through to the QF beating the 2nd seed Lou ADLER 6-4 4-6 6-2. Plays Tiphanie FIQUET UNR. smile

Already a very good week for Tiffany. biggrin

edit - stuck on page 2. disbelief

-- Edited by Strongbow on Friday 20th of July 2018 12:06:02 AM

AliBlahBlah · All-time great

First set in the bag, 6-3 *0-1

Michael D · All-time great

Lovely to see Tiff put together a string of wins here, and reaching the SF should zoom her into the women's top 1000. Amazing what a series of wins in 15ks can do for lower ranked players, even if the promotion of such tournaments is far too small fry for the LTA to bother itself with. The benefits are so obvious to support players in getting their feet on the ladder that it's clear the LTA has no interest in doing this, and would rather remain a petty organisation serving only a small elite.

Meanwhile Tiff has to run a gofundme site in order to compete; the French thankfully providing her an opportunity to make some progress.

QF: WILLIAM, Tiffany (GBR) 1102 beat FIQUET, Tiphanie (FRA) UNR 18yrs (JCH:1235 Mar 15) 6-3 6-2

SF: WILLIAM, Tiffany (GBR) 1102 vs FAHEY, Katharine (USA) UNR (CH:866 March 17)

-- Edited by Michael D on Friday 20th of July 2018 11:07:27 AM

indiana · Tennis legend

Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

So pleased for her. Had a very nice little chat with Tiffany's mum a few years ago - always warmed to Tiffany after that

And, yes, once you've got a ranking/got a top 1000 ranking/got a ranking that will allow you into the main draw and skip qualis i.e. all those little rungs on the ladder, it becomes SO much easier to carry on upwards.....

But obviously not on the agenda of the LTA 'team'.....

Brilliant week for Tiff, anyway - no idea about her SF opponent - she hasn't played any pro events for the last 2 years - I see she's a US college student doing a BS in International Studies paired with minors in Business and Spanish, and 20 hours a week tennis as part of the team.

Best of luck to Tiff in her semi.

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Friday 20th of July 2018 11:36:59 AM

steven · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend

Great to see her make her first ITF Pro singles SF Her next opponent upset the 3rd seed in R1 but of course Tiff herself upset the 2nd seed in R2.

However, unless something has changed while I wasn't looking, it's 4 points for making the SFs here, 7 for making the final and 12 for taking the title - maybe some confusion with men's 15Ks, which now award 18 points to the winner and 10 to the runner-up (?)

Michael D · All-time great

steven wrote:
indiana wrote:
Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend
Great to see her make her first ITF Pro singles SF Her next opponent upset the 3rd seed in R1 but of course Tiff herself upset the 2nd seed in R2.
However, unless something has changed while I wasn't looking, it's 4 points for making the SFs here, 7 for making the final and 12 for taking the title - maybe some confusion with men's 15Ks, which now award 18 points to the winner and 10 to the runner-up (?)

Yes, Tiffany already has 6 points Steven, so both Indy and I are counting 6+4=10 wink

indiana · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
indiana wrote:
Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend
Great to see her make her first ITF Pro singles SF Her next opponent upset the 3rd seed in R1 but of course Tiff herself upset the 2nd seed in R2.
However, unless something has changed while I wasn't looking, it's 4 points for making the SFs here, 7 for making the final and 12 for taking the title - maybe some confusion with men's 15Ks, which now award 18 points to the winner and 10 to the runner-up (?)

Probably me not being clear. I meant now 10 points in total - existing 6 plus 4 here for reaching the SF. Then if she were to win the title it would be 6 plus 12 = 18 in total.

steven · Tennis legend

Ah! Thanks both - if I'd been up to date and knew she already had exactly 6 points, I might have worked out that's what you meant. Another incentive to keep on working on the T25 tables later today, not that one was really needed!

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

indiana wrote:
Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend

Ive been prattling on for years about the elitism in British Tennis years now, seems you are all starting to finally agree with me now. A certain poster or two on here however will be noted by his absence on here obviously which is understandable I suppose.

Be interesting to see what happens next year though when all the changes come into play.

indiana · Tennis legend

It's fairly clear that many have consistently being saying similar for years while avoiding all the Tory and general political stuff, often including wild assumptions about individuals, some apparently very stretched or simply wrong - eg. EWS and some officials.

Comments, much of many threads indeed, about elitism in too early a selected seemingly 'in' crowd and not looking out for and helping say later developed less privileged folk to help provide much greater depth and structure, is so far from new but has been an ongoing dialogue.

The great pity is that so little changes, indeed certain things like home 15K tournament provision, for these much less 'in' or independently financed is worse. And we get from Scott Lloyd comments like it is a better use of resources to fund trips abroad - arguably maybe again for the 'in' crowd, not for unfunded Jo and Jenny Bloggs trying to make their way in the game.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 20th of July 2018 04:46:18 PM

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
indiana wrote:
Well said Michael and as CD has has said having such a limited depth permeates through the tennis industry, not helping growth. That in time risks not enough interest and backup to produce a good elite. Surely worth much more investment in the lowest pro level.

Anyway well done indeed Tiffany, indeed these now 10 points should take her into the top 1000 on Monday week ( taking out her March CH 1030 ) and to GB #25. Bit of a gap now to Mandy, Ella and Emma who will be on 17 points, but not one that can't be bridged by the further 8 points a title here would bring

#stillnotguaranteed25GBrankedplayersbyyearend
Ive been prattling on for years about the elitism in British Tennis years now, seems you are all starting to finally agree with me now. A certain poster or two on here however will be noted by his absence on here obviously which is understandable I suppose.
Be interesting to see what happens next year though when all the changes come into play.

Jaggy, I don't think it's that we are 'finally' starting to agree with you.

Although if we do all agree, that's fine and dandy smile

I think you'll find that many (certainly me, but also others) have been moaning about the elitism in the UK for many a year.....

I'm sure I've been pretty boring on the subject MANY times about how the elitism is nowhere near such a problem in France, and the positive effects this has.

Ace Ventura · Tennis legend

Tiffany turned 24 yesterday, this run is a nice little birthday treat.