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Brexit Voting [49 vote(s)]

Voted Leave - Would Still Vote Leave
18.4%
Voted Leave - Would Now Vote Remain
0.0%
Voted Remain - Would Still Vote Remain
71.4%
Voted Remain - Would Now Vote Leave
0.0%
Didn't Vote - Would Now Vote Leave
0.0%
Didn't Vote - Would Now Vote Remain
6.1%
Other
4.1%


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I have started a new thread because I wanted to put up a new vote.

As Theresa May announces her "3rd way" for a customs union/agreement/alignment/arrangement, I am wondering how people's opinions have changed (if at all) over the last two years. 

I will leave the debating points until later, other than to state that I am and always have been a Remainer - but I guess you all knew that already.



-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Thursday 5th of July 2018 10:25:55 AM

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For info, in the poll we had as to how folk voted in the referendum, the 30 responses were split:

Remain  18
Leave  8
Didn't vote  3
Spoiled ballot  1

britishtennis.activeboard.com/t62316628/eu-referendum-how-did-you-vote/

Be interesting to see how more leave voters would vote now, as well as others.



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Question to the poster who went from Not Voting to Remain - don't answer if you don't want to revel yourself or your reasons.

In the initial vote, were you undecided, or did you just think that Remain was going to win by a landslide anyway and therefore not vote.

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On another note, I would love to be a fly on the wall at Chequers today. Mind you, I think we may be able to see the fireworks from some distance away. Could be an explosive meeting.

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Could be good money to be made as a taxi-driver today !

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Kind of surprised that its 2018 and people still think leaving (especially with this government in control)) is still a good idea??

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I think it indicates how much people's news now reflexively corroborates what they already think. If you read the Guardian then it's transparently obvious that Brexit is a disaster. If you read the Express/Mail, it's transparently obvious that Brexit would be a huge success if only the cowardly judges/Lords/MPs/Government would only have faith in the UK.

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That said, whatever your source, I don't think anyone can think that Brexit is going well so far, even those who are sure in the longer term it will be better.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

Question to the poster who went from Not Voting to Remain - don't answer if you don't want to revel yourself or your reasons.

In the initial vote, were you undecided, or did you just think that Remain was going to win by a landslide anyway and therefore not vote.


 It didn't seem that important to me whether we stayed or went, and all the mixed messages didn't help persuade me one way or the other.  It's only now that I don't like what I see in the way it's brought out the worst in people that I wish the result had been different.



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brendan wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:

Question to the poster who went from Not Voting to Remain - don't answer if you don't want to revel yourself or your reasons.

In the initial vote, were you undecided, or did you just think that Remain was going to win by a landslide anyway and therefore not vote.


 It didn't seem that important to me whether we stayed or went, and all the mixed messages didn't help persuade me one way or the other.  It's only now that I don't like what I see in the way it's brought out the worst in people that I wish the result had been different.


Thanks Brendan.  It was opinions of anyone who had changed their mind (either way) that were of most interest to me. There is no doubt that the whole process has created/highlighted massive divisions within the country and they will take a long time to heal, whatever happens.

I didn't vote either, although my problem was that having lived outside the UK for so long, I was ineligible to vote.  Given the possible impact on my life, that is why I personally feel aggrieved by the whole situation.



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Can there be an option for someone that voted but wishes they didn't?

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The government just need to stop messing around and get on with it.
The vote was cast, everyone is getting frustrated by the delays and business wants a clue in how to invest going forward.

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Just sat with several guys from the biggest company in the region of France where I am at the moment.
All their British contracts are about to be changed to Spain, Germany etc.




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I may be wrong, but after yesterday's cabinet meeting, it seems that after more than two years, the government have finally come together and agreed on what they want despite being told by the EU consistently that they can't have it anyway.

We are apparently leaving the Single Market, an agreement that guarantees Free Trade with Europe, in order to negotiate a new deal that guarantees Free Trade with Europe. OK. I understand that the single market comes with conditions which we now want to avoid. But the EU has said since Day 1, if you want completely free trade, that comes with freedom of movement of the people. That is one of the four pillars of the EU and a complete red line for them.

For us to say that we want the free trade but without the conditions, sounds like the dictionary definition of cherry picking to me, and I am sure the EU will not agree to it.

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Yes, the idea that the EU would be happy for a country to leave and then negotiate a 'bespoke' arrangement just for them with the bits they like but not the other bits they don't like does seem to be stretching credibility. Who's next for a bit of that ?!

Though the leave campaign did try and sell the have cake and eat it and many seemed to buy that, while I do accept many others just didn't really want the cake at all any more.



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