Weeks 22 & 23 - French Open, Roland-Garros, Paris (Clay)

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Weeks 22 & 23 - French Open, Roland-Garros, Paris (Clay)

the addict · Tennis legend

Eurosport are showing Kyle's match again at the moment, for anyone that missed it.

-- Edited by the addict on Tuesday 29th of May 2018 07:46:56 PM

Vandenburg · Futures level

Oakland2002 wrote:
Kyle was great to watch De Minaur will be some player in time but got bossed today. Very happy with 3 out of 4 through to the 2nd Rnd.

Very excited by Cams performances on clay so far and his game tomorrow could be an absolute corker!

I'd say it is a pretty even match for Cam tomoz.

indiana · Tennis legend

Put your money on Cam then anyone who fancies his chances and likes a little flutter.

Cam 10/3, Pouille 2/9

Also we have Kyle 2/5, Fucsovics 2/1

( from bet365, other bookmakers are available, when the fun stops, stop ! )

flamingowings · All-time great

indiana wrote:
Put your money on Cam then anyone who fancies his chances and likes a little flutter.

Cam 10/3, Pouille 2/9

Also we have Kyle 2/5, Fucsovics 2/1

( from bet365, other bookmakers are available, when the fun stops, stop ! )

Fucsovics probably riding high from winning a title last week.

indiana · Tennis legend

I see that four 19 yos have reached R2. In order from the youngest - Moutet, Shapovalov, Ruud and Tsitsipas and 14 under 23s in total. Currently in the live top 64 there are two 19 yos ( Shapovalov and Tsitsipas ) and 11 U23s.

With just #17 Berdych to complete ( lost the first 2 sets to Chardy ), only one top 20 seed has lost in R1 ( #14 Sock ). 6 seeds have lost in total and also #21 Kyrgios withdrew.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Moutet has done surprisingly well got to be honest, he was pretty disappointing at the Bank of England sports ground last year through his toys out early and hard and lost but obviously the French federation think a lot of him but not someone I will be following with any enthusiasm, Shapovalov is the real deal as may well be Tsitsipas yet to see Rudd in action but hopefully this will be an opportunity.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Oakland2002 wrote:
Moutet has done surprisingly well got to be honest, he was pretty disappointing at the Bank of England sports ground last year through his toys out early and hard and lost but obviously the French federation think a lot of him but not someone I will be following with any enthusiasm, Shapovalov is the real deal as may well be Tsitsipas yet to see Rudd in action but hopefully this will be an opportunity.

Yes, it was a fun meltdown, wasn't it? I thoroughly enjoyed it. biggrin

I particularly enjoyed Moutet posturing in ultra theatrical fashion to his corner, shouting at top volume to the world (in French):

"And who am I ? Father Christmas? All I do is give out presents. Yes, I must be. Just call me Father Christmas"

It's a common French phrase when you're making a lot of UEs but he took it to a whole new level of amateur dramatics.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Ah, if only I had understood what he was rambling on about. I am sure he will curse in English when his ranking big improves.

Vandenburg · Futures level

Coup Droit wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:
Moutet has done surprisingly well got to be honest, he was pretty disappointing at the Bank of England sports ground last year through his toys out early and hard and lost but obviously the French federation think a lot of him but not someone I will be following with any enthusiasm, Shapovalov is the real deal as may well be Tsitsipas yet to see Rudd in action but hopefully this will be an opportunity.
Yes, it was a fun meltdown, wasn't it? I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I particularly enjoyed Moutet posturing in ultra theatrical fashion to his corner, shouting at top volume to the world (in French):
"And who am I ? Father Christmas? All I do is give out presents. Yes, I must be. Just call me Father Christmas"
It's a common French phrase when you're making a lot of UEs but he took it to a whole new level of amateur dramatics.

Regarding the next gen, we are now in the most ludicrous situation where zverev is verging on world number 1 despite never reaching a slam QF in his life. Madness.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Vandenburg wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:
Moutet has done surprisingly well got to be honest, he was pretty disappointing at the Bank of England sports ground last year through his toys out early and hard and lost but obviously the French federation think a lot of him but not someone I will be following with any enthusiasm, Shapovalov is the real deal as may well be Tsitsipas yet to see Rudd in action but hopefully this will be an opportunity.
Yes, it was a fun meltdown, wasn't it? I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I particularly enjoyed Moutet posturing in ultra theatrical fashion to his corner, shouting at top volume to the world (in French):
"And who am I ? Father Christmas? All I do is give out presents. Yes, I must be. Just call me Father Christmas"
It's a common French phrase when you're making a lot of UEs but he took it to a whole new level of amateur dramatics.
Regarding the next gen, we are now in the most ludicrous situation where zverev is verging on world number 1 despite never reaching a slam QF in his life. Madness.

Definitely some strange goings on with rankings recently.

Last year, Jack Sock made the ATP Tour Finals despite very dismal performances in the slams.

Wimbledon : Lost R2

Australian Open : Lost R1

French Open : Lost R1

US Open : Lost R1

Edit

Should also add that with the exception of the Paris Masters (which he won), he didn't get past the L32 in any of the other Masters either.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Wednesday 30th of May 2018 01:14:34 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

It is what it is. Zverev is a huge talent, recently turned 21, who I am fairly sure will produce in time in Slams. He seems to have succumbed to the pressure up until now but he will no doubt mature.

Different players develop at different times. Kyle last year just couldn't win close matches against well ranked players or beat any top 10 players. This year he has been doing both. Players being very different with different personalities and foibles only makes things more interesting.

Anyway, not going great for Zverev today either, 2-5* down in the first set vs Lajovic.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 30th of May 2018 01:45:39 PM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Shout out for Chardy. 2 sets up last night when play was suspended. Had to live with a Berdych come back to 2 sets all but then regrouped to win the 5th.

Zverev went on to lose the opening set 6-2

Vandenburg · Futures level

indiana wrote:
It is what it is. Zverev is a huge talent, recently turned 21, who I am fairly sure will produce in time in Slams. He seems to have succumbed to the pressure up until now but he will no doubt mature.

Different players develop at different times. Kyle last year just couldn't win close matches against well ranked players or beat any top 10 players. This year he has been doing both. Players being very different with different personalities and foibles only makes things more interesting.

Anyway, not going great for Zverev today either, 2-5* down in the first set vs Lajovic.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 30th of May 2018 01:45:39 PM

Coughs, a set and a break down now.

Vandenburg · Futures level

Bob in Spain wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:
Moutet has done surprisingly well got to be honest, he was pretty disappointing at the Bank of England sports ground last year through his toys out early and hard and lost but obviously the French federation think a lot of him but not someone I will be following with any enthusiasm, Shapovalov is the real deal as may well be Tsitsipas yet to see Rudd in action but hopefully this will be an opportunity.
Yes, it was a fun meltdown, wasn't it? I thoroughly enjoyed it.
I particularly enjoyed Moutet posturing in ultra theatrical fashion to his corner, shouting at top volume to the world (in French):
"And who am I ? Father Christmas? All I do is give out presents. Yes, I must be. Just call me Father Christmas"
It's a common French phrase when you're making a lot of UEs but he took it to a whole new level of amateur dramatics.
Regarding the next gen, we are now in the most ludicrous situation where zverev is verging on world number 1 despite never reaching a slam QF in his life. Madness.
Definitely some strange goings on with rankings recently.
Last year, Jack Sock made the ATP Tour Finals despite very dismal performances in the slams.
Wimbledon : Lost R2
Australian Open : Lost R1
French Open : Lost R1
US Open : Lost R1
Edit
Should also add that with the exception of the Paris Masters (which he won), he didn't get past the L32 in any of the other Masters either.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Wednesday 30th of May 2018 01:14:34 PM

I remember when people used to troll canas for reaching top 10 without reaching a QF, but Sock wow, this is just crazy. The rankings are really fake right now. I fear we are heading for women's tennis ranking style.