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Week 18 - ATP 250 - Millennium Open, Estoril, Portugal (clay)


Bagelled. What happened.

Set 2 points: Kyle 26/35 (74%)
Set 3 points: Kyle 7/31 (23%)

What changed ?

I didn't see the match and I am bemused.

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First serve % ended at 35% (6/17) for the final set. 5/17 points on serve, 2/14 on return.

Given he played it out with Madrid to come next week I wouldn't think any particularly serious injury.

However, while Kyle can go a bit missing in some matches that's some turnaround from set 2 to set 3. Clearly two players on court so maybe real inconsistency from both. Anyway  confuse



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Kyle would have a greater chance of points here in a weaker field than at Madrid so that theory doesnt go for me Indiana. Injury more likely or maybe its just another sign that he isnt at a level that some think he is with his ranking still overinflated in my opinion.

Contrast with Cam who was playing a tougher opponent and was very unlucky to go out last round.



-- Edited by Jaggy1876 on Friday 4th of May 2018 04:58:27 PM

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What did happen?

QF:  João Sousa (POR) WR 68 defeated (3) Kyle Edmund WR 23 by 6-3 1-6 6-0  bleh  disbelief



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Jaggy1876 wrote:

Kyle would have a greater chance of points here in a weaker field than at Madrid so that theory doesnt go for me Indiana. Injury more likely or maybe its just another sign that he isnt at a level that some think he is with his ranking still overinflated in my opinion.

Contrast with Cam who was playing a tougher opponent and was very unlucky to go out last round.



-- Edited by Jaggy1876 on Friday 4th of May 2018 04:58:27 PM


 Tsitispas knocked out RCB in 3.



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indiana wrote:

First serve % ended at 35% (6/17) for the final set. 5/17 points on serve, 2/14 on return.

Given he played it out with Madrid to come next week I wouldn't think any particularly serious injury.

However, while Kyle can go a bit missing in some matches that's some turnaround from set 2 to set 3. Clearly two players on court so maybe real inconsistency from both. Anyway  confuse


 feels like kyle bottled it. He's in Madrid draw. No injury and certainly no points tactics,  he's not in a position to do that

 



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flamingowings wrote:
Jaggy1876 wrote:

Kyle would have a greater chance of points here in a weaker field than at Madrid so that theory doesnt go for me Indiana. Injury more likely or maybe its just another sign that he isnt at a level that some think he is with his ranking still overinflated in my opinion.

Contrast with Cam who was playing a tougher opponent and was very unlucky to go out last round.



-- Edited by Jaggy1876 on Friday 4th of May 2018 04:58:27 PM


 Tsitispas knocked out RCB in 3.


 And? RCB an improving player, Sousa a Challenger player mainly. The Greek is going to be top 20 sooner rather than later so not much surprise there. 

 



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Joe & Jonathan (semi-)finally met their match:

SF:  Wesley Koolhof & Artem Sitak (NED/NZL) CR 115 (60+55) defeated Jonathan Eysseric (FRA) & Joe Salisbury CR 167 (81+86) by 5 & 3  cry

A bit disappointing, but no shame in that & nevertheless a good week for them.



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I see that Joao Sousa has gone on to take out the man of the moment, beating Tsitsipas in a 3rd set breaker.

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Bob in Spain wrote:

I see that Joao Sousa has gone on to take out the man of the moment, beating Tsitsipas in a 3rd set breaker.


 Home crowd behind him helping no doubt. Tsitipas has played a lot of matches recently so its  probably a bigger match for Sousa than him and long term the young Greek has a better future ahead of him. No matter how you dress it up Kyles loss was disappointing.



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Cam and Kyle have just started.

(anyone know where this can be watched?)

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Jaggy1876 wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:

I see that Joao Sousa has gone on to take out the man of the moment, beating Tsitsipas in a 3rd set breaker.


 Home crowd behind him helping no doubt. Tsitipas has played a lot of matches recently so its  probably a bigger match for Sousa than him and long term the young Greek has a better future ahead of him. No matter how you dress it up Kyles loss was disappointing.


Trust me Jaggy, I am disappointed EVERY time Kyle loses a match but it is true that yesterday was particularly disappointing given his momentum going into the deciding set.  The disappointment is even greater now when you look at how the other matches have turned out.  A SF against a tiring TsiTsipas could have been followed by a final against Frances Tiafoe who has just taken out our old friend Busta.

I was interested by your comment on Carballes Baena when you described him as an "improving" player.  He is a year older than Kyle and lower ranked so you could easily apply the same terminology to Kyle, who I accept is far from the finished article as yet.

Perhaps Kyle should really upset you and become a doubles specialist LOL.  He and Cam are a set up in their SF, which could ruin my plans of traveling to Madrid to watch Kyle play live.



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Kyle & cam win 6-2 7-6

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Kyle & Cam partially atone (though no doubt not at all in Jaggy's eyes) for their respective failures in the singles, Kyle acquiring a ranking in the process:

SF:  Kyle Edmund & Cameron Norrie UNR (0+614) defeated Leonardo Mayer & João Sousa (ARG/POR) CR 308 (98+210) by 6-2 7-6(4)

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Final:  Wesley Koolhof & Artem Sitak (NED/NZL) CR 115 (60+55) vs Kyle Edmund & Cameron Norrie UNR (0+614)



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Hard luck Bob !! wink

Good to see the boys come through, take note Leon !



-- Edited by the addict on Saturday 5th of May 2018 08:52:47 PM

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