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Post Info TOPIC: Week 18 - Challenger (€85,000) - Glasgow Trophy, Glasgow, Great Britain (indoor hard)


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RE: Week 18 - Challenger (€85,000) - Glasgow Trophy, Glasgow, Great Britain (indoor hard)


scottie1 wrote:

Just watched Gray live never in a million years would he be a Main draw Wc at Wimbledon he has nice shots but nothing to trouble top players I cannot see him ever breaking top 300. The Finn outpowered him with nice variety of pace Gray lost about 8 games in a row second set I was disappointed first time I have seen him.


 Ive seen him twice as well and concur with this, ITF Plodder Level at the moment with the Pauffleys, Hoyts etc. 



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scottie1 wrote:

Just watched Gray live never in a million years would he be a Main draw Wc at Wimbledon he has nice shots but nothing to trouble top players I cannot see him ever breaking top 300. The Finn outpowered him with nice variety of pace Gray lost about 8 games in a row second set I was disappointed first time I have seen him.


Thanks for the report. Pity re Jonny, though the Wimbledon MD WC suggestion has seemed a very minority one. He's just about in the QWC queue.



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Wednesday looks a decent day for Centre Court viewing with Ward, Glasspool, McHugh plus Clayton & O'Mara all scheduled.

Aidan plays his R1 match after Lloyd plays his R2 match.

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Any other forum regulars heading along this week? Thursday and possibly Friday for me. I doubt any Brits will be left by Saturday but if somehow there are then I ll go along then as well.

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I'd have gone tomorrow if I could. But can't make it. Unlikely later days either. I assume pay at the door. Doesn't look exactly sold out.

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Well if they all lose tomorrow then there ain't going to be no one left on Thursday and Friday either.

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Jaggy1876 wrote:
scottie1 wrote:

Just watched Gray live never in a million years would he be a Main draw Wc at Wimbledon he has nice shots but nothing to trouble top players I cannot see him ever breaking top 300. The Finn outpowered him with nice variety of pace Gray lost about 8 games in a row second set I was disappointed first time I have seen him.


 Ive seen him twice as well and concur with this, ITF Plodder Level at the moment with the Pauffleys, Hoyts etc. 


 A little harsh but, to be honest, he's already  done way better than I expected when I saw him at age 17. And good on him. But, yes, he's  not on my list either. 



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I believe "ITF plodder" covers an extensive range   

It's when you don't even get that that you should really worry.



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An unnecessarily harsh term generically and not applicable to someone who improved so much last year. He showed excellent ranking progression 1364 to 550 is that plodding? He has just turned 21 so obviously not on the trajectory of someone who is 18 and ranked 550 but then he was destined to be a challenger player. Credit where credit is due

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Oakland2002 wrote:

An unnecessarily harsh term generically and not applicable to someone who improved so much last year. He showed excellent ranking progression 1364 to 550 is that plodding? He has just turned 21 so obviously not on the trajectory of someone who is 18 and ranked 550 but then he was destined to be a challenger player. Credit where credit is due


 what's the status of Alastair gray , haven't seen his name for a while. Has he retired?  



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JonH wrote:
Oakland2002 wrote:

An unnecessarily harsh term generically and not applicable to someone who improved so much last year. He showed excellent ranking progression 1364 to 550 is that plodding? He has just turned 21 so obviously not on the trajectory of someone who is 18 and ranked 550 but then he was destined to be a challenger player. Credit where credit is due


 what's the status of Alastair gray , haven't seen his name for a while. Has he retired?  


 He's at college in the US and is doing very well indeed over there.



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indiana wrote:

I'd have gone tomorrow if I could. But can't make it. Unlikely later days either. I assume pay at the door. Doesn't look exactly sold out.


 yes i think you can pay at the door, and jaggy i may go back saturday depending on who's playing. I was there on monday and saw some real quality. If you can i recommend watching olaso v glassspool later today both have really nice games.



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Jaffa wrote:
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Oakland2002 wrote:

An unnecessarily harsh term generically and not applicable to someone who improved so much last year. He showed excellent ranking progression 1364 to 550 is that plodding? He has just turned 21 so obviously not on the trajectory of someone who is 18 and ranked 550 but then he was destined to be a challenger player. Credit where credit is due


 what's the status of Alastair gray , haven't seen his name for a while. Has he retired?  


 He's at college in the US and is doing very well indeed over there.


Hes at TCU the same programme that Cam played on and one of their better players in time potentially their best, they Obviously did a great job with Cam and their present no 1 Alex Rybakov (JCH 14) age 21 is presently Ranked about 560 but flying high on a similar trajectory to Cam in college tennis. potentially a great opportunity for Alistair who could be next man in at no 1 should Alex leave as a junior for the pro tour. Interesting to note that should Johnny have gone down the college route he too would be in the mix and avoiding the term ITF plodder for perhaps another 3 or 4 years. 



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ward with ace to get 1st set 6-4, playing well

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Nice to watch Wardy playing again; not as exciting as Evo but still there is a charm to his very distinctive playing style.

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