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Might just be that Italy has invested in 15ks for their players, allowing competitors to start at the bottom.

Only a WC recipient can get into a 25k without a ranking.

Where as GB only invests in a couple of players & only runs 25k s & above (women). I believe there is still a mens 15k

You reap what you sow.

 

 



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TennisMom wrote:

Might just be that Italy has invested in 15ks for their players, allowing competitors to start at the bottom.

Only a WC recipient can get into a 25k without a ranking.

Where as GB only invests in a couple of players & only runs 25k s & above (women). I believe there is still a mens 15k

You reap what you sow.

 

 


100%

It infuriated me when that posh older guy tennis commentator (who used to be a player), and I can't remember his name, was asked about why Italy are such a powerhouse at the moment and he said it was just 'random'! As if....

(France has 7 or 8 boys ranked. And 6-8 girls too. I know France is a bit more known for it but just to note)

NB i realise that juniors having an adult ranking is not the be-all-and-end-all, but it's just to give some form of comparison....

 

 



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TennisMom wrote:

Might just be that Italy has invested in 15ks for their players, allowing competitors to start at the bottom.

Only a WC recipient can get into a 25k without a ranking.

Where as GB only invests in a couple of players & only runs 25k s & above (women). I believe there is still a mens 15k

You reap what you sow.

 

 


 Agreed. smile The only problem with 15ks is that they would be over-subscribed just like the 25ks. Hopefuls would find themselves against ranked players in Qualies, and against 300-500 in the MD.

We would have to have enough to dilute this - but I'm not holding my breath.



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Strongbow wrote:
TennisMom wrote:

Might just be that Italy has invested in 15ks for their players, allowing competitors to start at the bottom.

Only a WC recipient can get into a 25k without a ranking.

Where as GB only invests in a couple of players & only runs 25k s & above (women). I believe there is still a mens 15k

You reap what you sow.

 

 


 Agreed. smile The only problem with 15ks is that they would be over-subscribed just like the 25ks. Hopefuls would find themselves against ranked players in Qualies, and against 300-500 in the MD.

We would have to have enough to dilute this - but I'm not holding my breath.


I doubt it io any great extent. I can't see loads of decently ranked peskies coming over for British 15Ks. You could get an unlucky draw but the odds are on much better opportunities for the home Brits trying to get a step on the ladder. I am sure that was the case in the past.

It s currently most particularly a problem on the women's side with the players generally attracted to the points of a W25 and then 2 rounds of qualifyng meaning a first match against a q seed, very likely with quite a decent ranking.. 



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Any UK 15ks would be the same as the January 15ks :-

Monastir 20/01 Q1 1215/624 CH 1058/437

Cairo 20/01 Q1 1169/552 CH 1167/552

Antalya 20/01 Q1 664/668 CH 474/668

Manacour 20/01 Q1 790/300 CH 785/30

Liepaja 20/01 Q1 947/322 CH 941/322

Stuttgart 20/01 Q1 928/638 CH 736/200

 



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I agree, Indy.

Of course the Q1 player will be ranked about 900-1000.

But that's hardly very high.

And there are 32 places in the Q draw.

The Italian federation stated that laying on lots of 15ks was integral to their approach to raise tennis levels (which has been pretty spectacular, not all because of the 15ks of course). The idea is not to give 'easy' points to the players. The point is to provide the right level of match play, on a regular basis, so that youngsters can use it to improve, to get a foothold if they then want to travel, to motivate and measure themselves, and, in general, to grow their games.



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