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RE: Week 15 - ATP 250 - Grand Prix Hassan II - Marrakech, Morocco (clay)


Final:  Pablo Andújar (ESP) WR 355 (CH = 32 in July 2015 - he's now 32) vs (2) Kyle Edmund WR 26



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I think that if you were playing your first ATP final, you would settle for playing someone with WR 355. No chickens though. Still have to win. Andujar is clearly an experienced pro with clay court expertise.

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Wel done to Kyle smilel Good luck in the final.



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Hopefully he has the mindset that he is playing a guy ranked 355, he just needs to get it done so he can focus on tougher challenges next week. Get a bit of revenge for Cartagena 2013.

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Funny, I remember certain posters in years gone by virtually stating that Kyle's ranking potential was top 30 at best. Always baffled me how anyone can put a limit on potential - especially when it comes to some of the most talented players of their generation. Potential and reality are different of course, but I've always maintained that Kyle has the potential to be a top 10 player and he's really not that far away from that now. If he wins on Sunday he'll break the top 20, if not then likely it's only a matter of time. Whether he does ever make the top 10 - who knows - but given his ranking, age, and persistent improvements over his young career it would be madness to suggest he doesn't at least have the potential to be a top 10 player now. Only takes another run like he had in Australia at a Masters or Slam. Of course there are a lot of elite players still out injured or returning from injury, but most of the top guys are in their 30s now and they won't be around forever (and likely at least a couple of them will either never return to that level or will take several years to do so).

I still follow Kyle, Cameron, Liam's and a few others' results but I haven't watched a match since Wimbledon/Murray's last match. Think that might have to end tomorrow...


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Go Kedders!

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TMH wrote:

Funny, I remember certain posters in years gone by virtually stating that Kyle's ranking potential was top 30 at best. Always baffled me how anyone can put a limit on potential - especially when it comes to some of the most talented players of their generation. Potential and reality are different of course, but I've always maintained that Kyle has the potential to be a top 10 player and he's really not that far away from that now. If he wins on Sunday he'll break the top 20, if not then likely it's only a matter of time. Whether he does ever make the top 10 - who knows - but given his ranking, age, and persistent improvements over his young career it would be madness to suggest he doesn't at least have the potential to be a top 10 player now. Only takes another run like he had in Australia at a Masters or Slam. Of course there are a lot of elite players still out injured or returning from injury, but most of the top guys are in their 30s now and they won't be around forever (and likely at least a couple of them will either never return to that level or will take several years to do so).

I still follow Kyle, Cameron, Liam's and a few others' results but I haven't watched a match since Wimbledon/Murray's last match. Think that might have to end tomorrow...


Well those certain posters were wrong. But I always like to hear what people really think, especially if as sometimes such questions are put out there as to where people think a player might get to. We can look back and to be fair sometimes posters themselves will out themselves with such as an - ah got that one wrong. Some hope we forgot 

I do see what you are saying about top young players with ongoing potential. Some people may not want to nor think you can put limits on how high they think any particular player can go but others clearly do so it is certainly arguable and maybe some people had certain what they considered relevant concerns re Kyle. I know I have had at times and stated them ( some now significantly allayed ). I don't think I ever was in the top 30 at best crew but wouldn't swear I wasn't when in a gloomier period about one or two things. I've certainly doubted top 10 in the past.

It'a just different opinions, and it is great that Kyle is beginning to fulfil some predictions and beat others.



-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 15th of April 2018 02:53:50 AM

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Well done Kyle - a good milestone achieved. Hoping he can go one step further tomorrow.



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It is always refreshing to click on to Kyles ITF biography some bits havent changed since he was 16/17.

Aspiration; Top ten player,
Favourite surface; Clay



-- Edited by Oakland2002 on Sunday 15th of April 2018 04:55:12 AM

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The certain posters who suggested Kyle was Top 30 and that was the limit stand by their point to a certain extent. Factor in weak fields a number of top injured players like Murray, Novak, Nishikori and others as well. The likes of Schwartzman are also top 20 just now as well. It was a good selection this tournament by Kyle as I stated previously and again anything other than the title would be disappointment. An ATP final against an ageing WR 355 as well. So well done for taking advantage of all the factors that contribute to the current situation. No smugness required by those who think Kyle is a top player yet. We ll wait until he is beating top 10 players regularly and see this time next year where he is before we break out the champagne.

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I see Andujar as the favourite despite the obvious disparity in ranking. He'll be happy to run around all afternoon - as the Spaniards do - if it means another win here.

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Andujar is coming back from 3 elbow ops, is 2-12 in wins/loses in last 18 months but did well in alicante and coming back. Kyle won their only match in Beijing qualies in October 2016.

I think kyle will win on fitness to be frank, Andujar will have worked hard to reach this final.



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For those who didn't see yesterday match (like me), there is a decent 10 mins highlights reel here.

www.youtube.com/watch

Watch out for the backhand winner after the lob at 3-3 in the 2nd set. It is at 7.30 mins into the video. #TrickShot

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With the exception of betting sites and Kyle's facebook page, is the final being televised anywhere ?

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Bob in Spain wrote:

With the exception of betting sites and Kyle's facebook page, is the final being televised anywhere ?


 It is on videostream

http://videostream.dn.ua/videopage/videoPage.php?g=OTcxOTYf&c=en&i=eWl2bW9iZGlzaAff



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