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flamingowings wrote:

Novak is still recovering from injury/surgery/whatever. Service motion wasn't great.

More like, Cam coulda had that.

Nowhere near the old Djokovic - errors flowing freely, and Taro played pretty well.

And yes, Cam could have had that - and more,

since Nishikori did in fact withdraw...



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So from the original Cam / Djokovic / Nishikori section we have Mayer vs Daniel for a L16 place.

Bah, pity ...



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the addict wrote:
flamingowings wrote:

Novak is still recovering from injury/surgery/whatever. Service motion wasn't great.

More like, Cam coulda had that.

Nowhere near the old Djokovic - errors flowing freely, and Taro played pretty well.

And yes, Cam could have had that - and more,

since Nishikori did in fact withdraw...

 I hadnt tracked that to be honest, wasnt following the detailed draw too closely. Darn! 



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L16:  Gilles Müller & Sam Querrey (LUX/USA) CR 213 (139+74) defeated (4) Jamie Murray & Bruno Soares (BRA) CR 17 (8+9) by 7-5 6-7(4) [10-2]  bleh



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So Jamie lost in round two to end a rather ignominious week for the brits in Indian Wells. Roll on Miami?!

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Having been semi finalists last year Jamie & Bruno will drop a net 270 points and be at best WRs 12 and 13 post Indian Wells   



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Like, I know Andy never does well at IW but really...no need to continue that particular tradition people!!

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Indian Wells strikes me as very different to most hard court venues, the courts are slow for hard courts, its almost like a change in surface from the AO, bit of an anomaly to me, lots of money available but not a slam and not really a slam surface (ie US or AO)

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Fed's half slightly falling apart.

It's an inconsistent relatively poor group behind Federer and Nadal at the top of the rankings just now, not really challenging players past their best. We had it very good for a sustained period, a great period. 

Even if and when such as Murray, Djokovic and Wawrinka get back to a decent standard again what we really need a bit longer term is some of these new kids on the block to step up consistently to give us new rivalries and a narrative to take the game forward through the next decade.

For now the mid to late 20s group on the whole are a relative wash out, though maybe one or two individuals can yet find the consistency that has been missing to date. And some of the early 20s and teens excite at times but haven't yet sustained it.



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indiana wrote:

Fed's half slightly falling apart.

It's an inconsistent relatively poor group behind Federer and Nadal at the top of the rankings just now, not really challenging players past their best. We had it very good for a sustained period, a great period. 

Even if and when such as Murray, Djokovic and Wawrinka get back to a decent standard again what we really need a bit longer term is some of these new kids on the block to step up consistently to give us new rivalries and a narrative to take the game forward through the next decade.

For now the mid to late 20s group on the whole are a relative wash out, though maybe one or two individuals can yet find the consistency that has been missing to date. And some of the early 20s and teens excite at times but haven't yet sustained it.

 As an aside to this, only 3 of the mens last 16 from Melbourne are in the field still here (21 players standing as we speak). 3. Federer, Chung and Carreno Busta. It certainly backs up Indy's general feelings above. No one is showing any consistency at all at the top of the field right now. thiem, Dimitrov, Zverev all went early, Cilic has just gone out as well. Del Potro maybe can push himself up the rankings with some decent form? He has it in him to rise to top 5 if he can keep going through next couple of weeks. Murray will no doubt feel quite heartened when he returns,     



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Worth noting that Cuevas, Lopez and Querrey are still in the last 16 singles and doubles quarters and could land the million dollar bonus. Fed will no doubt stop that but it has obviously encouraged some of the men

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Also noting borna coric this week. He's beaten young, Ramos Vinolas and Bautista Agut all in 2 sets and for loss of just 9 games over 6 sets. Pretty brutal.

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JonH wrote:

Djokovic lost to Taro Daniel today, 6-1 in third so maybe cams loss wasnt so disappointing after all...

 

New level of trolling from JonH

Cam loses to Taro, - Shocking loss, Taro is such as bad player, everybody knows it

Taro takes down Nole- OMG, this shows Cam was unlucky, Taro was obv hot this week. 

 

Real facts- Taro has always been and always will be challenger trash, and Novak- well his level is so painful right now...



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Vandenburg wrote:
JonH wrote:

Djokovic lost to Taro Daniel today, 6-1 in third so maybe cams loss wasnt so disappointing after all...

 

New level of trolling from JonH

Cam loses to Taro, - Shocking loss, Taro is such as bad player, everybody knows it

Taro takes down Nole- OMG, this shows Cam was unlucky, Taro was obv hot this week. 

 

Real facts- Taro has always been and always will be challenger trash, and Novak- well his level is so painful right now...

 never been called a troll before ! Quite proud of that! 



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"Challenger trash" enters the lexicon of tennis terminology. I think in the Vandy Dictionary it essentially means a challenger level player ( that in itself with some maybe a rather flexible term ).



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 14th of March 2018 05:04:10 PM

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