Weeks 35 & 36: US Open, New York (hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RE: Weeks 35 & 36: US Open, New York (hard)

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Cameron has a chance against the spaniard, important to remember, the majority of Spanish rankings are false (excluding Nadal), the spanish players tend to play 50 atp 250's a year and end up in the top 25. If they just played 18 tourns like most people, they would be ranked 40-60.

Doubt that really applies to PCB. He's hardly crammed his schedule - he didn't play at all between May and July, for instance. (Think he got injured at RG).
But his ranking is very much based on clay. His results on hard are not that brilliant.
He beat Kyle at the Aussie Open, of course, and very easily too.
But I think Kyle's got every chance this time. Kyle in four.

Am I misunderstanding here ? Kyle plays Steve Johnson. It's Cam who is playing PCB.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
Cameron has a chance against the spaniard, important to remember, the majority of Spanish rankings are false (excluding Nadal), the spanish players tend to play 50 atp 250's a year and end up in the top 25. If they just played 18 tourns like most people, they would be ranked 40-60.

Doubt that really applies to PCB. He's hardly crammed his schedule - he didn't play at all between May and July, for instance. (Think he got injured at RG).
But his ranking is very much based on clay. His results on hard are not that brilliant.
He beat Kyle at the Aussie Open, of course, and very easily too.
But I think Kyle's got every chance this time. Kyle in four.
Am I misunderstanding here ? Kyle plays Steve Johnson. It's Cam who is playing PCB.

Oh, darn. biggrin

My best laid plans......

Good job Bet365 doesn't work out here....I'd be broke....

OK, plan B: well, the first two lines still hold good. But am having trouble getting the next two to fit in smile

So OK - it's just going to have to be Cam in four. Easy.

indiana · Tennis legend

If you only counted everyone's Slams and Masters, which are the majority of PCB's points, I am sure he'd at worse just be a few places lower in in the 20s.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Kyle on a show court tomorrow - 5th match on Louis Armstrong.

Cam is 5th on Court 6

Aljaz is 2nd on Court 8

the addict · Tennis legend

It seems others have a thing about challenger players

Naomi Cavaday Retweeted
Tumaini Carayol @tumcarayol

"In fact, rankings of the Ashe day session:

#76 vs #89
#28 (race #47) vs #94
#146 vs #57

The US Open is officially a Challenger."

(And on that note, I'd better make a sharp exit for the day)

Spectator · All-time great

Where Oakland leads ...

More seriously, clearly del Potro and Sharapova's rankngs bear no relation to their ability - and are not why they are on Ashe! As noted elsewhere, the AO next year may also see some relatively low-ranked players in major stadia for obvious reasons. That said, I have profound empathy for Marin Cilic. He was rightly on Ashe in his 1st round opener, as he is the most recent champion in the draw. But bless him, he's been bumped from Ashe today by del Potro (fair enough, also a past champion), Shapovalov and Tsonga, from Armstrong by Kyrgios, Isner and Johnson, and from the Grandstand by Thiem, Dimitrov and Zverev. Cilic is not only the most recent USO champion in the draw but also was a finalist at the most recent Slam. He may not be the most trendy player imaginable, but could they have shown him a wee bit more respect?

Grim scheduling for Mr Edmund meanwhile: fifth on after, among others, Kyrgios/Millman and Isner/Chung in a Slam?! That looks like a strong contender for a match we might see when we wake up in the morning.

flamingowings · All-time great

There are 87 matches to be played today to catch up.

If you want players to play, they have to be put somewhere. If Cilic gets through week 1, he will be on showcourts - you would hope.

Putting "Bagel" Bouchard on AA though - that is a no from me.

indiana · Tennis legend

I see that after turning over Sasha Zverev in Cincinnati, Francis Tiafoe took Fed to five sets on Ashe last night.

Great teens, particularly in Tiafoe and Shapovalov, coming up to follow the decent crop of young 20s players, the relative washout of the now mid 20s group and the great older players, particularly now in their 30s.

I am currently making up a table of players through to the L64. The lack of good mid 20s players, already fairly well known, is just being so far highlighted again.

I guess that's one thing that has kept the great older players going, that such a generation of pretenders just didn't emerge, and even the really talented younger players are still maturing.

flamingowings · All-time great

Not going well for Bedene at the moment.

Madadman · Masters Series Champion

The match before Norrie's is about to start.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L128: Andrey Rublev (RUS) WR 53 defeated Aljaz Bedene WR 48 by 1, 4 & 4 cry

LordBrownof · Futures level

Yeeesh, Bedene lost in straights.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
L64: (Q) Cam Norrie WR 225 vs (12) Pablo Carreño (ESP) WR 19 (CH = 15 last week)

An entry from Stu Fraser's US Open diary in today's Times:

MURRAY'S THE MAN

David Norrie, father of the British No 5, Cameron, who plays Carreño Busta today, praised Andy Murray's treatment of his son at the Aegon Championships in June. "He maybe knew Cameron lacked the courage to go up and introduce himself at Queen's, so he did it himself, which speaks volumes," Norrie said.

LordBrownof · Futures level

Argh. I love this man so much!