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RE: Week 35/36 - US Open Main Draw, USA Hard


indiana wrote:

I see that after turning over Sascha Zverev in Cincinnati, Francis Tiafoe took Fed to five sets on Ashe ast night.

Great teens, particularly in Tiafoe and Shapovalov, coming up to follow the decent crop of young 20s players, the relative washout of the now mid 20s group and the great older players, particularly now in their 30s.

I am currently making up a table of players through to the L64. The lack of good mid 20s players, already fairly well known, is just being so far highlighted again.

I guess that's one thing that has kept the great older players going, that such a generation of pretenders just didn't emerge, and even now the really talented younger players are still maturing.


 Oakland will be gutted at the omission of the word 'cohort' in this post!!!



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Interesting. But considering the names referenced, probably wants to be in the mens thread?
The women's side has sufficient 'mid-range' representation already through; no? Keys, Osaka, Garcia, Sakkari, Dodin, Stephens, Tomljanovic, Barty etc.

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Yep, wrong section. The women's mid-20s cohort is much stronger.

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indiana wrote:

Yep, wrong section. The women's mid-20s cohort is much stronger.


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Kuznetsova in a real battle. I love Sveta but her going out wouldn't be the worst thing for Jo's chance at a maiden Singapore appearance!

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Really jinxed that.

Tbh Vondrousova fought all the way until a third set tie break and then just pretty much gave it to Kuznetsova. Frustrating. Vondrousova had 3 match points in the match too.

Sveta got a super easy section as well. 



-- Edited by LordBrownof on Wednesday 30th of August 2017 08:36:15 PM

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Bah, yes her and Mladenovic are the only two currently within remote sight of the current top 8 in the race ( though apparently only the top 7 are guaranteed into the tour finals with the 8th at the whim of the WTA ). Kiki, in no great form anyway, is out but Svetlana survives and not good news about her section.



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Coco (or Vandermort as we like to call her) is in that section and although she's the worst, may get through a Sveta fourth round.

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Kuznetsova had a strong run in last year, so is likely to pick up quite a few more points over the next couple of months.

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I really like Garcia and would like to see her do well. I thought she probably should have beaten Jo at Wimbledon and has a good all round game. She's top 20 now but I see her more as a top 10 player going forward.

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indiana wrote:

Bah, yes her and Mladenovic are the only two currently within remote sight of the current top 8 in the race ( though apparently only the top 7 are guaranteed into the tour finals with the 8th at the whim of the WTA ). Kiki, in no great form anyway, is out but Svetlana survives and not good news about her section.


 Kuznetsova goes out in R2 doing Jo's chances on the Road to Singapore a significant favour biggrin 



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Of the sixteen third round matches, only five involve two seeds. (The men are in a similar position: they have six) But there are still pockets of intense competition, like the Kvitova, Garcia, Rybarikova, Muguruza 1/8th.

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Yes, Kuznetsova going out is excellent news for Jo's Singapore hopes. This top 8, with FO Champion Ostapenko at 8, looks like a solid bet unless Coco can make the semi's or further. Jo should be able to pick up enough points in Asia to make it happen.

And what a fantastic achievement it would be to reach the World Tour Finals. Not to mention Jo going from outside 150 to a shot at number 1 in under 3 years.

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The biggest danger ( as I said in the battle for the top thread ) is Ostapenko nipping ahead of Jo into the final guaranteed finals spot. Now ( at least currently ) that would leave 9th onwards well behind and no 2017 Slam winners amongst them so Jo, if 8th in these circumstances, should retain by far the strongest case. But 7th is better than 8th.

On the positive side I can see Jo anyway having a better Asian swing than Ostapenko and pretty decent overall thereby guaranteeing her spot. So I do think that she'll end up OK and yes would be great to see her at the tour finals and this time competing!

Just to make more sure, Jelena needs to be told that she must be in absolute pole position for the discretionary spot if she doesn't make the top 7 so don't be worrying too much about that and just quietly prepare for the tour finals.



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Cornet destroyed by Kvitova 1 & 2 in R2. Whoever considered Cornet was distinctly average against Hev looks bang on.

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