Week 29 - Challenger ($75,000) - Gatineau, Canada (hard)

steven · Tennis legend

Week 29 - Challenger ($75,000) - Gatineau, Canada (hard)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

steven wrote:
Not sure what has happened to Liam, who was tweeting from Gatineau yesterday but was below Ed on the entry list and isn't in the qualifying draw.

Here's your explanation, Steven:

L32: (WC) Liam Broady WR 389 (CH = 158 in August 2015) vs Blaz Rola (SLO) WR 245 (CH = 78 in January 2015) bleh

paulisi · Tennis legend

Ed is a set up

steven · Tennis legend

I guessed he must have got a wild card but seems a bit random, even if he did reach a Futures SF here last year!

H2H is 0-3, all in 2015

steven · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Ed is a set up

His opponent started like a Bhat out of hell (igmc) and was a break or two up early on but Ed recovered to win the 1st set 7-5 and is now a break up in the 2nd

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR1: (q4) Ed Corrie WR 362 defeated (qWC) Malik Bhatnagar (CAN) UNR by 5 & 4

Bit of a wobbly start, but he got there in the end! smile

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR2: (q4) Ed Corrie WR 362 vs J C Aragone (USA) WR 660 (CH = 655 last month)

steven · Tennis legend

Another under-ranked college player (wasn't Ed one of those once?) - Aragone was the University of Virginia's MVP this year.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Joe's found himself a new partner. 'Twill be interesting to see how the partnership lasts & which one goes further...

L16: (3) Jarryd Chaplin (AUS) & Joe Salisbury CR 319 (177+142) vs Hans Hach & Vincent Millot (MEX/FRA) CR 1386 (227+1159)

L16: Yuki Bhambri & Yasutaka Uchiyama (IND/JPN) CR 1090 (779+311) vs (2) Luke Bambridge & David O'Hare (IRL) CR 312 (173+139)

skibbarriz · Strong Club Player

steven wrote:
Another under-ranked college player (wasn't Ed one of those once?) - Aragone was the University of Virginia's MVP this year.

Calling him under-ranked, is that any different from observing he is a College player? Because all College players are under-ranked are they not, inherent due to not playing on the tour full time. So does it not become a redundancy to state it each time one of our touring players draws a guy in College?

The majority of College players aren't going to become superstars, not even the NCAA winners. And him being the best player in his team doesn't mean much with the plethora of US Colleges that there are. I don't know, it just feels like people frequently make out College players to sound like super scary threats when 99% of them are of a level where they are not going to go anywhere near pro tennis once their degree is finished.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I agree with the comment above but I think Steven and others are pointing this is should there be a surprising loss. Whereas losing to an 800 ranked journeyman would perhaps be a poor result the college players being in the draw can perhaps give a caveat for any such loss.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I know what you mean, skib. It's the same for quite a lot of French players based on their domestic ranking.

But I think the point is that many people take it as a really disappointing loss, or put up bleh signs, or whatever, because our player loses to a player a lot lower ranked. Whereas, in reality, that US college player's ranking should be a lot higher and is misleading.

So no one's saying that the college player is the best thing since sliced bread (or is going to be) - just that we shouldn't only look at ATP/WTA ranking when evaluating the performances of players.

indiana · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Joe's found himself a new partner. 'Twill be interesting to see how the partnership lasts & which one goes further...
L16: (3) Jarryd Chaplin (AUS) & Joe Salisbury CR 319 (177+142) vs Hans Hach & Vincent Millot (MEX/FRA) CR 1386 (227+1159)
L16: Yuki Bhambri & Yasutaka Uchiyama (IND/JPN) CR 1090 (779+311) vs (2) Luke Bambridge & David O'Hare (IRL) CR 312 (173+139)

Yes, be interesting. They are in opposite halves so would be good to see both pairs make the final. I have said before that in my admittedly limited viewing Luke seems a better overall doubles player than Joe and certainly him and David seem to be quickly gelling as a partnership. All the best going forward for all of Luke, David and Joe.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

QR2: J C Aragone (USA) WR 660 defeated (q4) Ed Corrie WR 362 by 6-7(5) 6-4 6-4 cry

Oakland2002 · All-time great

I think the unhappy face is warranted, Virginia are a top programme but Aragone is not their superstar, a senior who normally plays 4 or 5 pretty dominant there as the case with the top programmes which have depth.

At challenger level very few college players are going to have a significant impact 3-4 nationally, but the good college players i.e. Those playing no. 1 for the better power conference teams in futures tournaments do completely skew the draw because at that level many are under ranked having won or gone deep in futures before attending college. The correct term? Yes as ranking is used to seed the draw and some are much better than some of the seeded opposition.