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A very critical article about the scheduling in the New York Times (mainly about the favouring of men's matches over women's and why the Djoko match was on Centre Court in the first place but also the organisation of the match once it was).

www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/sports/tennis/in-a-cozy-setting-at-wimbledon-the-womens-game-suffers-an-indignity.html

 

Also liked Ben's comment:

 
 

Ben Rothenberg Retweeted Stuart Fraser

"We couldn't play this match because too many people would have wanted to see it" is a remarkable rationale, I must say."



-- Edited by Coup Droit on Tuesday 11th of July 2017 07:09:06 AM

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Very exciting day of tennis yesterday, the mens singles matches included some epics.

The interesting thing on the mens side is that the last 8 has a good strong soiid look to it and we should expect at least one five setter

Murray v Querrey - have played some good tight matches (Queens, Olympics) in pressure situations and one would expect Andy to come through this again, maybe in 4 sets?

Cilic v Muller - wow, Muller's win was an inspiration, best sportsperson ever from Luxembourg. Nonetheless Cilic will go in as favourite. Just. 5 sets to Cilic?

Federer v Raonic - Federer still looks untouchable and Raonic just doesnt have the variety to cause him long lasting issues. However, Fed may lose his first set here, 4 sets win to Fed.

Berdych v Djokovic or Mannarino - expect Novak to get through in 3 today, and then pick apart Berdych ( I have never liked Berdych to be frank but respect his ability to keep on reaching this stage of slams). Djokovic in 3 sets though for me.

Hard to pick a winner of the whole thing, but tasty set of q's. Anticipate Murray and Fed being on centre again; I am sure they used to have an informal policy to spread it around more to ensure all the semifinalists had played on centre, but suspect this wont happen this year

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Yep usually the men have to suffer the indignity of at least one match on Court 1. But gee the idea of one of the 'big 4' ever finding there way to Court 2 ?! Of course all the women, save Jo this year, normally have to at least make there way to Court 2.

I suspect that and the general weighting of men's matches in the normal 3 matches on Centre and number 1 each day forms part of CD's New York Times link that isn't working for me.

Re the Djokovic vs Mannarino match and the too many people on site business, I'm not absolutely convinced that they spent enough time contingency planning on how to deal with the notoriously riotous Wimbledon attendees and a solution for such a scenario as against working on a statement as to why there supposedly was no solution.



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Coup Droit wrote:

www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/sports/tennis/in-a-cozy-setting-at-wimbledon-the-womens-game-suffers-an-indignity.html


That link doesn't work.  I had to type it all in manually! 



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Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/sports/tennis/in-a-cozy-setting-at-wimbledon-the-womens-game-suffers-an-indignity.html


That link doesn't work.  I had to type it all in manually! 


Just highlighting it and pressing enter is quicker. wink



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Stircrazy wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:

www.nytimes.com/2017/07/10/sports/tennis/in-a-cozy-setting-at-wimbledon-the-womens-game-suffers-an-indignity.html


That link doesn't work.  I had to type it all in manually! 


 So sorry, SC - don't know why - it was the address at the top of the page. Apologies !!!



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indiana wrote:

Yep usually the men have to suffer the indignity of at least one match on Court 1. But gee the idea of one of the 'big 4' ever finding there way to Court 2 ?! Of course all the women, save Jo this year, normally have to at least make there way to Court 2.

I suspect that and the general weighting of men's matches in the normal 3 matches on Centre and number 1 each day forms part of CD's New York Times link that isn't working for me.

Re the Djokovic vs Mannarino match and the too many people on site business, I'm not absolutely convinced that they spent enough time contingency planning on how to deal with the notoriously riotous Wimbledon attendees and a solution for such a scenario as against working on a statement as to why there supposedly was no solution.


 I don't really think it's so much the 'big 4' having to experience the travesty of playing on court 2 as it is that they draw in far, far more fans than anyone else and the organisers will want them on the biggest court possible to accommodate.



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indiana wrote:

Mens QFs :

Age 30 vs Age 29
Age 34 vs Age 28
Age 26 vs Age 35
Age 31 vs Age 29 or Age 30

Next Gen can wait !!


 

And another 30 year old completes the line-up giving us five in their 30s and a youngest of 26.

Just adding the straight ages gives 243 so dividing by 8 an average over 30.

Counting days for each and averaging, the average age of the quarter finalists is 30 years and 333 days.



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indiana wrote:
indiana wrote:

Mens QFs :

Age 30 vs Age 29
Age 34 vs Age 28
Age 26 vs Age 35
Age 31 vs Age 29 or Age 30

Next Gen can wait !!


 

And another 30 year old completes the line-up giving us five in their 30s and a youngest of 26.

Just adding the straight ages gives 243 so dividing by 8 an average over 30.

Counting days for each and averaging, the average age of the quarter finalists is 30 years and 333 days.


 adding a few days to the end of the event, lets call it an average of 31 and be done with it!!! 



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Andy vs Querrey first up on Centre at 1 pm followed by Raonic vs Federer.

Court One : Muller vs Cilic then Berdych vs Djokovic

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indiana wrote:

It's fun, but I'll do my annual - Introduce final set TBs Wimbledon !


 And I ll counter by disagreeing. Grand Slams should have a break of serve. And Doubles should scrap MTBs to be taken more seriously. And also scrap the no ad thing as well that seems to be creeping in.

Tennis has one of the best points scoring systems of any Sport, keep it real I say.



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Sorry and just to clarify I know the changes don't apply to the current tournament, I was meaning in general of course.

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Andy vs Querrey first up on Centre at 1 pm followed by Raonic vs Federer.

Court One : Muller vs Cilic then Berdych vs Djokovic


 I ll predict the top seeds to all win in straight sets. Still think Novak will won the whole thing as well.



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indiana wrote:

Andy vs Querrey first up on Centre at 1 pm followed by Raonic vs Federer.

Court One : Muller vs Cilic then Berdych vs Djokovic


 I ll predict the top seeds to all win in straight sets. Still think Novak will won the whole thing as well.


Djokovic hasn't played anyone to test him Federer looks the classy player I think he will take Djokovic out! 



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Yes, sadly I think Fed will win it. My only hope is that they will beat each other up in the semis so Andy has abit of an advantage. Also if it's an Andy Fed final, I really hope that the crowd will be with Andy at his home slam.

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