Weeks 27 & 28 - Wimbledon (grass) - men's singles

indiana · Tennis legend

Weeks 27 & 28 - Wimbledon (grass) - men's singles

indiana · Tennis legend

Spare long life battery power available. Ferrer beats Darcis 3-0 retired.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Spare long life battery power available. Ferrer beats Darcis 3-0 retired.

disbelief Was just about to post that myself, Indy. All of 18 minutes he lasted!

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

First set to Monfils on a TB - but you all knew that already.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Jeff Stelling wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
The odious Kyrgios (20 & in Andy's quarter of the draw) is out, beaten by 3-6 4-6 retired by PHH!

You mean breath-of-fresh-air Kyrgios who many people consider amongst their favourite players on the tour?

No, I mean the vile, odious, loathsome, obnoxious, juvenile, spoilt brat, Kyrgios.

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

Stircrazy wrote:
Jeff Stelling wrote:
No, I mean the vile, odious, loathsome, obnoxious, juvenile, spoilt brat, Kyrgios.

Wow bit harsh. He showed some great attitude on the North American hardcourt swing only for injury/grandfather's death to halt his progress since

TMH · Futures qualifying

Stircrazy wrote:
Jeff Stelling wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
The odious Kyrgios (20 & in Andy's quarter of the draw) is out, beaten by 3-6 4-6 retired by PHH!

You mean breath-of-fresh-air Kyrgios who many people consider amongst their favourite players on the tour?
No, I mean the vile, odious, loathsome, obnoxious, juvenile, spoilt brat, Kyrgios.

Seems just a tad excessive.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

^^^^^

Frankly, my dears, I really don't give a damn!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

L64: (1) Andy Murray WR 1 defeated Dustin Brown WR 97 by 3, 3 & 2

L64: Aljaz Bedene WR 58 defeated Damir Dzumhur (BIH) WR 83 by 6-3 3-6 6-3 6-3

L64: (15) Gaël Monfils (FRA) WR 14 defeated Kyle Edmund WR 50 by 7-6(1) 6-4 6-4

*****

L32: (1) Andy Murray WR 1 vs (28) Fabio Fognini (ITA) WR 29 (CH = 13 in March 2014)

L32: Aljaz Bedene WR 58 vs Gilles Müller (LUX) WR 26 (= CH)

Rich · Lower Club Player

Straight sets win for Monfils but still some good play from Kyle. Hopefully he can take some positives away from this match. You can see how Kyle is very much a top 100 player who is well capable of beating most players between 30 and 100. For him it is that next step. How to get that bit extra into his game to earn wins over the guys in the top 20. He is not there yet but not that far away. I fully expect him to go on and make the top 30. He finally got past the first round here so well done Kyle.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

I still get the feeling sometimes with Kyle that he sees himself and the young player being allowed to play against the "big boys" and he doesn't quite believe yet that he belongs. I have only really seen him once play in a way that he looked like he believed he could win and that was a set and a half in Monte Carlo against Nadal where he really dominated for an extended period.

Having said that, 7-6 6-4 6-4 against a top 16 player is by no means a poor scoreline. Kyle played very well at times, but on those big points, the confidence wasn't quite there.

As has been said before, some players take longer than others to find their feet at the very top level and I remain as confident as ever that Kyle will get there.

At least there is no more grass for him until next year.

Rich · Lower Club Player

I would really like to see Kyle win a main tour event. Say a 250. I feel that would do him a lot of good to be there at the end of the week as the champion holding the trophy. Also agree you get the feeling that he does not yet believe he belongs in the top flight. I think it's just the same as I didn't really believe he would beat Monfils. But he's not that far away.

Vandenburg · Futures level

Someone needs to get a hold of Kyle and manage expectations. He is not top 20 potential, he is top 50 at best, and his ranking reflects that, and there is nothing wrong with that, it is something as a nation we have longed for, for so long, just steady eddy top 75 players in depth. He has made it onto the main tour. When compared to the many failed generations before him, anything in between henski and murray, this lad must be regarded as a success.

Rich · Lower Club Player

I agree with that. We really hit the jackpot with Andy and I think for others after him we have this expectation and hope that they will be just as good. I would love to see more players in the top 100 and on the main tour. Greater depth and more to support can only be a good thing. I still think Kyle can go further and make the top 30. Until that happens we can't really know if he could get even higher. Look at Konta. Who honestly thought she would be in the top 10 now.

skibbarriz · Strong Club Player

indiana wrote:
Going to be interesting to see the dynamics between Kyle and the crowd today. Kyle normally gives so little out during a match and won't naturally invite them in to his zone and it would be folly to suddenly try and markedly change. Hopefully the crowd will still be very encouraging and he can at least embrace that support.

More generally over the longer term it was interesting to hear Leon Smith chatting about Kyle with Sue and Tim ( yes I know many folk would prefer less chat ). Without criticising it was fairly clear that Leon would prefer he had more presence and talked for instance of maybe jogging to the baseline, basically looking more up for it, no doubt as much to send that message back across the net as anything. But as I say that would be a longer term thing if he is to change at all, though I imagine he will in at least small ways over time and with hopefully more success and confidence.
All the best today, Kyle. Go make it happen.

So how do you reckon Kyle did with that, and the way the crowd took to him?