Weeks 22-23 - Roland-Garros, France - clay

Spectator · All-time great

Weeks 22-23 - Roland-Garros, France - clay

TMH · Futures qualifying

Murray seals it with a breadstick. Lovely stuff, great to see him playing like this again. And great to have a top 10 win again.

I stand corrected...

Spectator · All-time great

Good win by Mr Murray. Welcome back.

Nadal has been in terrifying form - so it's hard to see beyond La Decima. But they should be good SFs and a good final. And while I was off in my prediction of the first young player to make a big breakthrough - I'll stick with the idea that Thiem may be the first to win a Slam. Probably not here. But it feels more like 'a matter of time' for him (and Zverev) than a 'will he ever do it?'

-- Edited by Spectator on Wednesday 7th of June 2017 05:13:05 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

Spectator wrote:
Yes, but I find it fascinating in the Slams. People talk about everyone except Stan Wawrinka ... and then (of late) surprise! He's in the SFs or the Finals ...

The fact that someone didn't win a lot of Slams before 2014 is irrelevant when his record since then is three wins and four additional SFs.

Yes, Stan comes to the party in Slams. Much of the rest of the year I think he goes to the parties !

indiana · Tennis legend

QF: (1) Andy Murray WR 1 beat (8) Kei Nishikori (JPN) WR 9 2-6 6-1 7-6(0) 6-1

SF: (1) Andy Murray WR 1 vs (3) Stan Wawrinka (SUI) WR 3 (= CH)

H2H is 10-7 to Andy with their last meeting an Andy 6-4 6-2 win at last year's ATP tour finals. On clay it is 1-3 though Andy's one win was their most recent on clay and only previous R-G meeting, last year's SF 6-4 6-2 4-6 6-2

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Spectator wrote:
Yes, but I find it fascinating in the Slams. People talk about everyone except Stan Wawrinka ... and then (of late) surprise! He's in the SFs or the Finals ...

The fact that someone didn't win a lot of Slams before 2014 is irrelevant when his record since then is three wins and four additional SFs.

If Stan wins the French Open and matches Andy to QF at Wimbledon he could be World Number 1 at the end of it. Would be amazing flying under the radar.

Spectator · All-time great

Thanks for that, Jaggy. I hadn't realised quite how close he was.

indiana · Tennis legend

As things stand taking off last year's R-G, Queen's and Wimbledon points and say adding a R-G SF for Andy and R-G title for Stan the guaranteed post Wimbledon points would be :

Andy : 10370 - ( 1200 + 500 + 2000 ) + 720* = 7390

Stan : 5695 - ( 720 + 45 ) + 2000* = 6930

So Stan would also have to win Queen's without Andy winning a round there to effectively start Wimbledon in a live lead so that he only had to then match Andy to overtake him in the rankings.

Rafa would be closer to Andy in guaranteed post Wimbledon points if he wins R-G and Andy exits at the SF stage.

Rafa : 5375 - 90 + 2000* = 7285

* - illustrative R-G points

And ...

Novak : 7445 - ( 2000 + 90 ) + 360 = 5715

Roger : 5035 - ( 180 + 720 ) = 4135

Clearly any further R-G wins for Andy significantly strengthen his chances of holding on to his WR 1 position post this year's Wimbledon.

JonH · All-time great

Got to say I reckon anyone would have taken Andy in the semis at the start of last week. Well done him and won today not playing that well, judging by the BBC radio 5 reporting. Novak seems to have imploded in the last set of his loss and considering a break it appears. Reckon he needs it, nothing to gain by losing like that and maybe a few months off will do him some good.

indiana · Tennis legend

Novak points up to and including the French Open :

2016: 7950 ( Andy 4450 )

2017 : 1975 ( Andy 1930 so far )

Been tough going this year for both. But Novak has followed his drop off in the second half of 2016 with a first half of 2017 that bears no comparison whatever with last year's great start to the year. Ever since he completed that career Grand Slam it's not been good.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Thought Murray had blown that 1st set when he failed to put the point away at *5-4 in the TB. But I should never doubt his mental fortitude as from SP down,he played some sensational and gutsy stuff to take the set 7-6(6).

Jan · Hall of fame

1 set all now.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Looking very ominous now. Stan has turned up the heat and Andy has gone off the boil. That's seven games in a row for Wawrinka who leads 3-0* in the 3rd.

chavkev · Intermediate Club Player

Fantastic from Andy to win the third set 7-5.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Andy edges a nervy, topsy-turvy third set to win it by 7-5 & get his nose back in front.