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GBJ wrote:

I posted this on Feb 15th after the first win of Leeds current run: "Hoping todays result is a turning point for Leeds United after their recent slump and that they will be back in the Premiership at last when we move back to the UK later this year!! They have dominated at pretty much all their games this season (even against Arsenal in the FA cup) but I dont remember the last time they scored early and kept the lead. (Ive been following most weeks on these BBC live updates)." I am feeling pretty good about that turning point I was hoping for is starting to work out now - 7 points clear of 3rd place, back on top of the table, 5 wins in a row and 9 goals without reply. Hoping they can keep plenty of this momentum going and maybe even secure promotion comfortably ....but that is just me being an optimist.


We had a similar run of victories before Xmas (7 in a row) against a similar run of teams, all of whom were in the bottom half of the table at the time.  It is strange how the calendar has worked out that we played all the top team almost in a row and then most of the lower teams in a row. Even when we were going through the slump, I always felt we would turn it around when we started to play the reverse fixtures against the lower ranked teams.

We now have 5 home games left out of 9 matches in total.  In these 5 homes games, we play Fulham, (huge game that one) but the other 4 are against Stoke (17th), Charlton (22nd), Luton (23rd),  Barnsley (24th). I know that these teams will be fighting hard against relegation, but I would rather be playing them than other top teams.  Fulham (3rd), who may be the only team that can stop us finishing in the Top 2 still have to play Brentford (4th), Leeds (1st), Forest (5th) and West Brom (2nd), so they have a really tough run in.

Only note of caution at the moment - our 7 match winning streak in Nov/Dec came to an end when we threw away a 3 goal lead against Cardiff City.  Who do we play next ?  You guessed it - Cardiff City. 



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Great article in The Guardian about Marcelo Bielsa.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/09/marcelo-bielsa-a-method-actor-in-footballs-theatre-of-the-absurd

Bielsa: A method actor in footballs theatre of the absurd.



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Really disappointed to hear BBC getting rid of ALan Green, www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/broadcasting-news/2020/03/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5

Joining Mark Pougatch, Jonathan Overend and many others that I have liked.

Bad call in my opinion, Greeny wasnt what he was and polarised opinion but I personally liked his candid and open style

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BBC Radio making awful decisions at moment in bid to attract the 'yoof'

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JonH comes home wrote:

Really disappointed to hear BBC getting rid of ALan Green, www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/broadcasting-news/2020/03/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5

Joining Mark Pougatch, Jonathan Overend and many others that I have liked.

Bad call in my opinion, Greeny wasnt what he was and polarised opinion but I personally liked his candid and open style


I used to really like Alan Green, saying it as it was. In the last few years I have found him a hard listen with his negativity.

I moved over time from good, it's Alan Green to pity, it's Alan Green. 



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indiana wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:

Really disappointed to hear BBC getting rid of ALan Green, www.prolificnorth.co.uk/news/broadcasting-news/2020/03/alan-green-hits-out-bbc-showing-very-little-respect-dropping-him-5

Joining Mark Pougatch, Jonathan Overend and many others that I have liked.

Bad call in my opinion, Greeny wasnt what he was and polarised opinion but I personally liked his candid and open style


I used to really like Alan Green, saying it as it was. In the last few years I have found him a hard listen with his negativity.

I moved over time from good, it's Alan Green to pity, it's Alan Green. 


 and to be fair, I think that is correct. But he was different and hit my spots in the same way Danny Baker worked for me; difference is good sometimes.

 

Mind you the best was Mike Ingham, i really do miss him!  



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Leeds Fans: After 16 years of exile, Leeds are finally going back to the Premier League.

Corona Virus: Hold my beer.

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Hard to get too excited about it Bob, I would love to see us get over the line properly, this feels like it could be a damp squib. The peak of this thing is weeks away, so I cant see play resuming, things I care about that might not happen in the best way would include Leeds getting back to Premier League, Harrogate Town getting promoted/winning the FA Trophy, Liverpool winning the league, and then things like Euro 2020, and Champions League etc, I cant see any of those happening, or finishing. Which is very sad.

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JonH comes home wrote:

Hard to get too excited about it Bob, I would love to see us get over the line properly, this feels like it could be a damp squib. The peak of this thing is weeks away, so I cant see play resuming, things I care about that might not happen in the best way would include Leeds getting back to Premier League, Harrogate Town getting promoted/winning the FA Trophy, Liverpool winning the league, and then things like Euro 2020, and Champions League etc, I cant see any of those happening, or finishing. Which is very sad.


I agree with you about the peak.  Current cancellations, whether football, tennis or other sports are just for a few weeks, but most people expect things to get worse before they get better.  I can see those cancellations being extended for a couple more months at least.

It is going to be a mess for everyone, but people's health is more important.



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Leeds have launched a new kit for when the league resumes.

 

Leeds Kit.jpg



-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Friday 13th of March 2020 09:14:38 PM

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Bob, I am so sorry. That might be next season in the championship, personally would love to see 22 team PL for a season with West Brom and Leeds coming up. Could relegate three and promote 2 for next few seasons.

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Oakland2002 wrote:

Bob, I am so sorry. That might be next season in the championship, personally would love to see 22 team PL for a season with West Brom and Leeds coming up. Could relegate three and promote 2 for next few seasons.


Its a tough one for sure.  There seem to be three proposals out there if they cannot finish the league.

1). Stop the season now and as you say, have a 22 team PL next year.  Liverpool announced as champs (they deserve that) with Leeds and WBA being promoted.  No relegation.  Next season, relegate 2 extra teams.  I think this is what the Bundesliga is planning to do.  If they cancel Euro2020, which I think is on the cards, they could simply start next season 3 weeks earlier to facilitate the extra matches.  The players would still have had nearly 4 months off.

2). Simply cancel/void everything and start again. This would have huge implications for Championship sides. For us, we would have to sell our best player (Kalvin Philips) to meet the FFP rules and there is no way Marcelo Bielsa will spend another season in that league. I fear that would lead to a mass exodus of players and we would be back to mid table obscurity. As for other teams, such as recently relegated WBA/Fulham, would they still get their parachute payments next season if this season "never happened". Huge financial complications.

3). Apply the league tables as they are now.  Almost impossible in my opinion. Those in the bottom 3 of the PL would immediately take legal action and rightly so. Not fair on them to relegate them with 9 games to go, particularly when they are only a couple of points from safety.

From a personal perspective, if Leeds do go up, I would much rather see it happen by playing the last 9 games over the summer (cancel/postpone Euro2020) and getting there on the merit of a fully completed season.  Other than that, option 1 seems the "least worst" scenario IMO but people would still say that we don't really deserve to be there.  It is a really tough situation, not just for Leeds but for all clubs and the "powers that be".

Let's just hope that the virus pandemic passes quickly (and not just for footballing reasons), although sadly I don't see that happening.



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But as I said in the Coronavirus thread, you can finish the leagues, maybe not by August, but you can sometime, and then teams get what they deserve.

Finish it whenever and have planned reduced fixture lists next season.



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indiana wrote:

But as I said in the Coronavirus thread, you can finish the leagues, maybe not by August, but you can sometime, and then teams get what they deserve.

Finish it whenever and have planned reduced fixture lists next season.


I could live with that.



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Bob in Spain wrote:
indiana wrote:

But as I said in the Coronavirus thread, you can finish the leagues, maybe not by August, but you can sometime, and then teams get what they deserve.

Finish it whenever and have planned reduced fixture lists next season.


I could live with that.


Yay. Otherwise from your options I certainly agree your case as to 1) being the "least worst". But far better the champions and promoted teams do not live thereafter with an *



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