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Collywobbles seem to have set in since they threw away a 3-0 lead after an hour at home to Cardiff in December.

It's interesting ( maybe not the word their ans would use ) but I would kind of like to see them ultimately get the job done this season.


I support Newcastle, and I consider them similar clubs in terms of having success in the past, big support due to being one club cities with a big catchment area, and regular top 6 finishes in the 90s when I was growing up, and in Newcastle's case, early 00s, so I was quite amused that a big club dropped, and one 'out of the way' so to speak, but I've long accepted that we are one of a few just looking to stay up and have been surpassed by so many clubs recently, including Wolves (who we were a massive 8/1 to beat last week, which tells it's own story), so I'd now rather another northern team came up, rather than someone like Brentford, who may pip them, and just be another Bournemouth type club.

They've been out for such a long time, that a whole generation will see them being out of the top flight as pretty normal, and potential matches against the likes of Man Utd will be more of a standout match to the neutral, and better for the Premier League (IMO).

I quite like the city as well, and is one I could see myself living in (or near) in the future.



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Ace Ventura wrote:
indiana wrote:

Collywobbles seem to have set in since they threw away a 3-0 lead after an hour at home to Cardiff in December.

It's interesting ( maybe not the word their ans would use ) but I would kind of like to see them ultimately get the job done this season.


I support Newcastle, and I consider them similar clubs in terms of having success in the past, big support due to being one club cities with a big catchment area, and regular top 6 finishes in the 90s when I was growing up, and in Newcastle's case, early 00s, so I was quite amused that a big club dropped, and one 'out of the way' so to speak, but I've long accepted that we are one of a few just looking to stay up and have been surpassed by so many clubs recently, including Wolves (who we were a massive 8/1 to beat last week, which tells it's own story), so I'd now rather another northern team came up, rather than someone like Brentford, who may pip them, and just be another Bournemouth type club.

They've been out for such a long time, that a whole generation will see them being out of the top flight as pretty normal, and potential matches against the likes of Man Utd will be more of a standout match to the neutral, and better for the Premier League (IMO).

I quite like the city as well, and is one I could see myself living in (or near) in the future.



 Leeds the city is ok, is actually quite a compact city centre and has good shopping. I think the restaurant scene in the  centre is poor, given its size, but the various suburbs in the north like chapel allerton,  moortown,  meanwood,  roundhay all have a decent selection, headingley as well, and are good places to eat in and also live in. We are around a 20-30 mins drive where we live in harrogate, 35 mins by train, and are probably the nearest large town that isnt part of the leeds metropolitan area, other nice places like wetherby. 

My wife and I both went to university in Newcastle,  at Northumbria in fact, and love Newcastle. Daughter has on offer from them for next year and will probably put it as her reserve behind edinburgh, waiting to hear from them, or durham. 

 

Lots of harrogate kids go to Newcastle for university , it is known as harrogate on Tyne to many around here ! 



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Our London curse has stuck again.

We went to Millwall, without our main Central Defender. Put Berardi in to replace him and within 10 mins he was sent off for a foul in the penalty area and Millwall scored the penalty. The red card was later rescinded when videos showed no contact.

We went to Fulham who were given the softest of soft penalties, which the refs association have since admitted was an error and shouldn't have been given.

We went to QPR (today) and by all accounts their goal was courtesy of handball. Haven't seen the incident personally but this from the BBC website. "But they (Leeds) were rightly aggrieved by QPR's winner as Eberechi Eze's free-kick struck both of Wells' arms before he tapped into the net from six yards."

Of course we don't help ourselves by missing penalties as we did today as well. Missing Kalvin Phillips for three games now after a straight red.  It never rains but it pours.



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Saving grace, Bob,  is that the baggies form is as bad as ours!



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Happy about today's signing of Jean-Kévin Augustin . Hoping he lives up to the hype.

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He has scored 1 goal in 10 appearances at Monaco and 8 from 30 last season in Germany. Presumably you would only sign him if promoted, likely to get better at 22 and I suppose you will know by the end of the season if you want to fork out £17 million.

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Oakland2002 wrote:

He has scored 1 goal in 10 appearances at Monaco and 8 from 30 last season in Germany. Presumably you would only sign him if promoted, likely to get better at 22 and I suppose you will know by the end of the season if you want to fork out £17 million.


I think almost all of his appearances at Monaco have come off the bench and he has had very little playing time.  The deal is loan with option to buy if promoted.  There were rumours of "obligated" to buy if promoted but I don't know the exact details.

At the U19 World Cup 2 years ago, he partnered a certain Kylian Mbappe up front, outscored him and won the golden boot. So he knows where the back of the net is. How long it will take for him to settle is a different matter.

Hopefully it will give the rest of the squad a boost if nothing else.

We have also added a young 19 yo from Man City - Ian Poveda - who looks like a talent. He is on permanent contract having signed on a free transfer.

Add to that, we have two back from long term injury tomorrow - Tyler Roberts & Jamie Shackleton - and all the ingredients are there for us to hopefully turn around our recent form.  I think I read somewhere that on the "last 6 matches form guide" we were 23rd and WBA were 24th.  I wonder how often the two teams at the top of the table are at the bottom of the form guide.  But that's the Championship for you. No easy matches.



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Oakland2002 wrote:

He has scored 1 goal in 10 appearances at Monaco and 8 from 30 last season in Germany. Presumably you would only sign him if promoted, likely to get better at 22 and I suppose you will know by the end of the season if you want to fork out £17 million.


I think almost all of his appearances at Monaco have come off the bench and he has had very little playing time.  The deal is loan with option to buy if promoted.  There were rumours of "obligated" to buy if promoted but I don't know the exact details.

At the U19 World Cup 2 years ago, he partnered a certain Kylian Mbappe up front, outscored him and won the golden boot. So he knows where the back of the net is. How long it will take for him to settle is a different matter.

Hopefully it will give the rest of the squad a boost if nothing else.

We have also added a young 19 yo from Man City - Ian Poveda - who looks like a talent. He is on permanent contract having signed on a free transfer.

Add to that, we have two back from long term injury tomorrow - Tyler Roberts & Jamie Shackleton - and all the ingredients are there for us to hopefully turn around our recent form.  I think I read somewhere that on the "last 6 matches form guide" we were 23rd and WBA were 24th.  I wonder how often the two teams at the top of the table are at the bottom of the form guide.  But that's the Championship for you. No easy matches.


 Theres a lot of speculation about Billy Sharp from Sheffield United as well, motd pundits talked about it on Saturday night,  saying it could make the difference for Leeds.  Derby and QPR are also rumoured to be in for him as well, but all things being equal, given location and position in league, youd have to think leeds would be his preference 



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JonH comes home wrote:
 Theres a lot of speculation about Billy Sharp from Sheffield United as well, motd pundits talked about it on Saturday night,  saying it could make the difference for Leeds.  Derby and QPR are also rumoured to be in for him as well, but all things being equal, given location and position in league, youd have to think leeds would be his preference 

Hierarchy saying the "shop is closed" and no more business in this transfer window.  Of course that could just be a smokescreen.  We are still being linked with a number of players and I always felt Billy Sharp had unfinished business at Elland Road.  He is a proven goal scorer that never really fired when he played for us last time.  However the most interesting talk is of another CB from France called Harold Moukoudi who plays for St Etienne.  British players are so overpriced, particularly it seems, in the Jan transfer window.  Clubs are asking silly money for average players.

Millwall tonight. Always a bogey team for us.  All this optimism could come crashing down by the final whistle today.

PS. Story floating around in the media today is that Augustin turned down Man Utd to come to Leeds.  That will endear him to the fans even more.



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Bob in Spain wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
 Theres a lot of speculation about Billy Sharp from Sheffield United as well, motd pundits talked about it on Saturday night,  saying it could make the difference for Leeds.  Derby and QPR are also rumoured to be in for him as well, but all things being equal, given location and position in league, youd have to think leeds would be his preference 

Hierarchy saying the "shop is closed" and no more business in this transfer window.  Of course that could just be a smokescreen.  We are still being linked with a number of players and I always felt Billy Sharp had unfinished business at Elland Road.  He is a proven goal scorer that never really fired when he played for us last time.  However the most interesting talk is of another CB from France called Harold Moukoudi who plays for St Etienne.  British players are so overpriced, particularly it seems, in the Jan transfer window.  Clubs are asking silly money for average players.

Millwall tonight. Always a bogey team for us.  All this optimism could come crashing down by the final whistle today.

PS. Story floating around in the media today is that Augustin turned down Man Utd to come to Leeds.  That will endear him to the fans even more.


 Goal down after 4 mins Bob! 



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Bob in Spain wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
 Theres a lot of speculation about Billy Sharp from Sheffield United as well, motd pundits talked about it on Saturday night,  saying it could make the difference for Leeds.  Derby and QPR are also rumoured to be in for him as well, but all things being equal, given location and position in league, youd have to think leeds would be his preference 

Hierarchy saying the "shop is closed" and no more business in this transfer window.  Of course that could just be a smokescreen.  We are still being linked with a number of players and I always felt Billy Sharp had unfinished business at Elland Road.  He is a proven goal scorer that never really fired when he played for us last time.  However the most interesting talk is of another CB from France called Harold Moukoudi who plays for St Etienne.  British players are so overpriced, particularly it seems, in the Jan transfer window.  Clubs are asking silly money for average players.

Millwall tonight. Always a bogey team for us.  All this optimism could come crashing down by the final whistle today.

PS. Story floating around in the media today is that Augustin turned down Man Utd to come to Leeds.  That will endear him to the fans even 

 

Skin of the pants but what a come back and now top. Were lucky west Brom are on such a poor run. My son went to see them at west ham at the weekend, fa cup, and said it was two terrible teams 



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I need to do something about my blood pressure when watching Leeds. We never do things the easy way.

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Congratulations on your win last night Bob. My team got 2-0 up, against the run of play, but you swarmed all over of with such energy in the 2nd half there was no holding you back.

I love playing Leeds (though I prefer it when we win) as the message boards are full of the "when we get back where we belong" type comments. I've never quite got the EFL and everybody hates us/there a conspiracy against us type comments but its reached new heights after last nights game. I would assume all would be celebrating the comeback or just generally getting back to winning ways just when I was starting to think your full name might actually be Leeds Its Happening Again United(!) it seems all most want to talk about is how corrupt the referee was. Much talk was of a save our keeper made and was then awarded a goal kick (the kick was actually for offside) or a ball being clearly out of play before our 2nd goal as various pictures posted "prove"(I see a ball over hanging the line and therefore NOT out of play at all) Even so....you guys won! Why such a strong feeling like this when the side emerged victorious?

I just don't get it Bob....why do so many have this siege mentality? Millwall fans have it themselves as do many clubs but I have never witnessed it at the levels of some Leeds fans. Where did it all start and why is the feeling so strong?

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Congratulations on your win last night Bob. My team got 2-0 up, against the run of play, but you swarmed all over of with such energy in the 2nd half there was no holding you back.

I love playing Leeds (though I prefer it when we win) as the message boards are full of the "when we get back where we belong" type comments. I've never quite got the EFL and everybody hates us/there a conspiracy against us type comments but its reached new heights after last nights game. I would assume all would be celebrating the comeback or just generally getting back to winning ways just when I was starting to think your full name might actually be Leeds Its Happening Again United(!) it seems all most want to talk about is how corrupt the referee was. Much talk was of a save our keeper made and was then awarded a goal kick (the kick was actually for offside) or a ball being clearly out of play before our 2nd goal as various pictures posted "prove"(I see a ball over hanging the line and therefore NOT out of play at all) Even so....you guys won! Why such a strong feeling like this when the side emerged victorious?

I just don't get it Bob....why do so many have this siege mentality? Millwall fans have it themselves as do many clubs but I have never witnessed it at the levels of some Leeds fans. Where did it all start and why is the feeling so strong?


 Hi Shhh. I am also a Leeds fan, and whilst Bob may have other views, I think the siege mentality has been ingrained and multiplied over time. I think it clearly started in the Revie years. The team then became iconic but was never, ever liked , at least not by non Leeds fans. It was admired but never liked. The names from the time roll off the tongue maybe more than any other team that has played the game at  club level and there developed a feeling of Leeds against the  rest. Dirty Leeds came to the fore (you see Oakie still using it) as our approach was tough, uncompromising, professional and probably a little boring at times to other fans. But successful. The hate relationship with  clubs like Man Utd, Liverpool, the North Eastern Clubs like Boro, Sunderland, Newcastle and then London clubs like Chelsea etc etc grew and a siege mentality crept in. I dont think Leeds fans ever thought we got the credit for those years, including the European Cup in 1975 which we should have won and felt we where robbed of, leading to rioting fans and shame for Leeds. 

Of course, the glory years didnt last, through Clough and  the disaster there (hater turned manager turned into something films are made of!) eventually led to the years of Ridsdale and the George Graham and David O'Leary reigns, and back to  the semis of the Champions League but all built on jam tomorrow which never came and the edifice fell down - and again, it felt like everyone loved to laugh and point and take the michael out of the club. 

And since then, many many years of being down and managing to have season after season when Leeds starts  well and finishes badly and falls like that famous horse in the National near the line. 

So it has built up since the early 70's and the Revie years I think and become a thing. 

I am not a Leeds fanatic at all, I am a fan, others are more strongly supporters than me and may have a better perspective on it! 

 

      



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Shhh wrote:


I just don't get it Bob....why do so many have this siege mentality? Millwall fans have it themselves as do many clubs but I have never witnessed it at the levels of some Leeds fans. Where did it all start and why is the feeling so strong?


I have never understood why some (not all) fans seem to think that to support your own team, you have to hate other teams.  I have supported Leeds with a passion for almost 50 years now but have never felt the need to hate any other teams - even Man Utd wink

As for last night, I do think we benefited from having been out of the FA Cup and therefore having 10 days off.  We clearly had more energy in the 2nd half but your guys had played only a couple of days ago, so that was hardly surprising.  Millwall have been on a great run recently and I think were top of the "form guide" going to the match.  Gary Rowett has done well for you and I think you have an excellent chance of the playoffs.

Tough run of games for you in early Feb.  Sheff Weds (11th), WBA (2nd), Fulham (4th). Hoping you can do us a favour and take some points of these teams, especially WBA and Fulham.

As for the two incidents, I have seen the touchline moment from a couple of angles. From one angle it looks out but from the other it doesn't, so I will give the officials the benefit of the doubt on that one.  Not sure about the "offside" though. Sorry.  Just think the ref got that one wrong. But hey - that's football.



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