Week 46 - South Africa F3 ($10,000) - Stellenbosch (hard)

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Week 46 - South Africa F3 ($10,000) - Stellenbosch (hard)

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

It's a very common Afrikaans surname and the Christian names aren't particularly unusual in that part of the world either! Would be unusual if the family was french speaking - most usually it's Afrikaans as a first language with English as a second or vice versa.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The Optimist wrote:
It's a very common Afrikaans surname and the Christian names aren't particularly unusual in that part of the world either! Would be unusual if the family was french speaking - most usually it's Afrikaans as a first language with English as a second or vice versa.

I'll go with you and Spec that half the RSA is called du Toit. And am happy to accept Daniel. And Evangeline (at a pinch).

But I can't believe that Lance-Pierre is a common first name !

(and I don't think SC will accept it as a 'Christian' name, whatever smile )

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
It's a very common Afrikaans surname and the Christian names aren't particularly unusual in that part of the world either! Would be unusual if the family was french speaking - most usually it's Afrikaans as a first language with English as a second or vice versa.

I'll go with you and Spec that half the RSA is called du Toit. And am happy to accept Daniel. And Evangeline (at a pinch).
But I can't believe that Lance-Pierre is a common first name !
(and I don't think SC will accept it as a 'Christian' name, whatever )

Apparently the Du Toits play Rugby as well. This is from a match report of England's victory over South Africa at the weekend.

Youngs spotted space around the fringes on the opposition 22, beat blind-side flanker Pieter-Steph du Toit with an outrageous dummy and found Ford on his right shoulder to put his fly-half away for their side's third try.

The Optimist · ATP qualifying

Coup Droit wrote:
The Optimist wrote:
It's a very common Afrikaans surname and the Christian names aren't particularly unusual in that part of the world either! Would be unusual if the family was french speaking - most usually it's Afrikaans as a first language with English as a second or vice versa.

I'll go with you and Spec that half the RSA is called du Toit. And am happy to accept Daniel. And Evangeline (at a pinch).
But I can't believe that Lance-Pierre is a common first name !
(and I don't think SC will accept it as a 'Christian' name, whatever )

Well, Lance and Pierre would not be unusual and hyphenating 2 Christian names is also very common (see BiS's post about the rugby). So, although that exact combination might be a bit specific, it doesn't strike me as unusual. And in that part of the world it probably really is a Christian name......

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

This could run and run

I've tried googling and can't find any other Lance-Pierres so I throw down the gauntlet !

Although I have found a zillion guys called Lance Pierre (i.e. first name then last name) in France ....

All good stuff....

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Just to stir the mix even further, in the very same singles draw, there is a Canadian by the name of Riaan du Toit.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Full scoreline:

L32: James Marsalek WR 761 defeated (Q) Ruben Konings (NED) UNR by 3-6 7-6(5) 6-1

As for the Lance-Pierre debate, CD is quite correct: I have no problem with Pierre, which is a genuine Christian name. Lance, on the other hand, never has been & never will be! wink

indiana · Tennis legend

Didn't know about France, but evidently not uncommon there, and plenty Lances around elsewhere, particularly in, whisper it, the USA.

What is a "genuine Christian name" anyway ?

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 01:00:52 PM

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Didn't know about France, but evidently not uncommon there, and plenty Lances around elsewhere, particularly in, whisper it, the USA.

What is a "genuine Christian name" anyway ?

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 01:00:52 PM

Our first accountant in Brazil was a guy called Allysson.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 01:03:57 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
What is a "genuine Christian name" anyway ?

A name formally given to Christians when they are christened (the most obvious example is saints' names & I doubt there was ever a Saint Lance!). In these God-forsaken (literally) & PC (with which, it will not surprise you to learn, I will have no truck! wink ) days, the term is often used loosely to mean any person's first name as distinct from his/her surname to the extent that alternatives which do not refer to a particular faith, & are thus deemed to be more "inclusive", are often used - first name, forename, given name - especially in official documents.

the addict · Tennis legend

I know a SA couple - he is called Lance. And we have a client in Essex who is called duToit - another saffa

Edit - damn autocorrect

-- Edited by the addict on Tuesday 15th of November 2016 01:26:49 PM

Spectator · All-time great

Tomorrow Jay Clarke is first on at 9:30, Curtis Clarke is second on, and both doubles teams are last on (not before 14:00).

I'm actually with CD on the topic of the mysterious doubles opponent. It feels too good to be coincidental. And the Pierre isn't something I've come across among South Africans: Pieter, as per Bob's rugby player would be far more typical. So I do wonder. As for all those French parents naming their children Lance Pierre (and very clearly knowing what they are doing) I can only surmise that they are the children of 1968 hoping to raise a new generation of protesters.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

L32: Jay Clarke WR 813 def. Alexander Merino (PER) WR 1328 6-1 6-4

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

L32: (Q) Curtis Clarke UNR lost to (6) Christoph Negritu (GER) WR 448 6-1 6-1