Week 46 - ATP Tour Finals 2016 - O2, London

Jan · Hall of fame

RE: Week 46 - ATP Tour Finals 2016 - O2, London

theemptyvessel · Club Coach

JonH wrote:
Jan wrote:
Kontinen and Peers take it 10-4

Does that give Jamie and Soares year end #1 team ranking??

Yes it does!

indiana · Tennis legend

Interesting discussion re the ATP finals over recent years.

While I did enjoy my one visit ( finals day when Davydenko and the Bryans won ), I certainly agree that in many ways the finals have been a let down in recent years with some jaded players and a lot of decisive straight set wins. Actually this year has been better than recent years for extended matches with indeed that Andy vs Kei record breaker.

The thing is what is the best way(s) to improve this while still being 'real' ? I assume that at least the big majority do not want manufactured interest / excitement. If a player can win decisively in straight sets, too right that they go on and go for it.

I agree with some that in theory round robin sounds quite good for this event, but it doesn't really seem to work as against knock out. The players can still be well rewarded and the spectators see win or out knock out matches involving the world's best

If you have knock out, best of 5 then becomes realistic with gap days. It simply isn't for me in a group set up - quite apart from a schedule issue one sided best of five can be even worse than one sided best of three.

So straight knock out and best of five at least in the final I think should be seriously considered.

The Knight · Challenger qualifying

Andy attacking the net a fair bit today, taking his cue from how Evo played Stan at the USO

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Looks as though Andy means business: he leads by 6-4 *1-0. smile He & NoDjo head & shoulders above the rest of the pack!

indiana · Tennis legend

Already through to the SF, if Andy wins this in straight sets not only will he win the group, Nishikori will be guaranteed second.

the addict · Tennis legend

No contest, bye bye Stan

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

RR3: (1) Andy Murray WR 1 defeated (3) Stan Wawrinka (SUI) WR 3 by 4 & 2 biggrin

indiana · Tennis legend

Saturday Semi Finals :

(1) Andy Murray vs (4) Milos Raonic - not before 2 pm

(2) Novak Djokovic vs (5) Kei Nishikori - not before 8 pm

indiana · Tennis legend

Maybe a match for you now, Novak

Hopefully, not so much for Andy, though no doubt more work than he had to do vs Raonic to get to #1.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 18th of November 2016 04:15:25 PM

Jan · Hall of fame

Murray Magic

indiana · Tennis legend

22 wins a row too. Not seen the like since Andy's 22 match winning streak from June through to August.

indiana · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Saturday Semi Finals :

(1) Andy Murray vs (4) Milos Raonic - not before 2 pm

(2) Novak Djokovic vs (5) Kei Nishikori - not before 8 pm

(5) Kontinen & Peers vs (3) Bryan & Bryan - 12 noon

(2) Murray & Soares vs (7) Klaasen & Ram - not before 6 pm

malincanada · Improver

Can anyone answer a quick question about the ranking situation?

If Murray loses his semi he will get 600pts total from the tournament. If Djokovic loses in the final he will get 1000pts total from the tournament.

Am I right in thinking that if the results above happen then Murray will still be #1 on Monday 21st, but Djokovic will take over #1 on Monday 28th due to Murray's 275 Davis Cup points being dropped?

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

malincanada wrote:
Can anyone answer a quick question about the ranking situation?

If Murray loses his semi he will get 600pts total from the tournament. If Djokovic loses in the final he will get 1000pts total from the tournament.

Am I right in thinking that if the results above happen then Murray will still be #1 on Monday 21st, but Djokovic will take over #1 on Monday 28th due to Murray's 275 Davis Cup points being dropped?

Haven't checked the exact dates, but the numbers are otherwise correct. For Murray to finish the year at Nº1, he needs to at least match Novak now. So either they both get knocked out in the semi, or Murray wins his semi and Djokovic loses his, or Murray wins the tournament. Any other combination and Djokovic will return to Nº1.

-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Friday 18th of November 2016 09:17:28 PM