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Post Info TOPIC: Week 32 - Challenger ($100,000) - Nordic Naturals Challenger, Aptos, CA (hard)


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Week 32 - Challenger ($100,000) - Nordic Naturals Challenger, Aptos, CA (hard)


Very exciting watching Cam progress, hopefully he will get a nice run of challenger level tournaments under his belt through the rest of the summer and into the Autumn, perhaps even into Aussie open qualifying based on rank!

Dan is undeniably a talented tennis player by being canny I think can get close to the top 50 perhaps even better, I think there will be pressure from behind in players born 95 and later but an obvious opportunity as there is a gap in true standout players between 21 and 27 years of age.

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In the light of the Olympic missed out on this.

What a week for Cam. Has he graduated from Uni now?

Great to see Dan back on track.

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Mervatron wrote:

In the light of the Olympic missed out on this.

What a week for Cam. Has he graduated from Uni now?

Great to see Dan back on track.


No.  He has 2 more years to go, I think.  He is just playing some tournaments over the summer break.



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Is Evo still in the running for the end of season Challenger finals? I seem to recall he was in the top eight earlier this year and last week can't have hurt...

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I can't see Evo playing in the finals even if he does get there as it is on clay, unfortunately.

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I'm sure it is of little interest to Dan, but he must surely qualify for the year end Challenger Tour Finals. He has over 500 points from challenger events, I think it is unlikely that anybody will beat that. I've looked for information on the ATP website, but there doesn't seem to be any. I may be in Brazil again, and if it is on clay, Dan will have even less inclination to make the trip.

So, Dan will have a much deserved rest week this week. i'm interested to see how he does next week in Salem. I think tournaments the week before a GS can be a real opportunity for players of Dan's ranking. Many players, especially the seeds, will have their focus on Flushing Meadow.  

 Edit: great minds think at the same time!



-- Edited by stevemcqueen on Monday 15th of August 2016 03:43:31 PM

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So far there has been no announcement regarding the 2016 challenger tour finals so it may well have quietly been dropped as the bad idea that it always was.

For what it is worth Evo is currently top of the rankings with 526 points (includes Knoxville and Champaign from the end of last year).

As I said up thread he really shouldn't be playing another challenger match this year. His scheduling so far has been very conservative but with him now established well inside the top 100 it is time for him to be more ambitious and he should be playing exclusively on the main tour for the remainder of the year.

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RJA wrote:

So far there has been no announcement regarding the 2016 challenger tour finals so it may well have quietly been dropped as the bad idea that it always was.

For what it is worth Evo is currently top of the rankings with 526 points (includes Knoxville and Champaign from the end of last year).

As I said up thread he really shouldn't be playing another challenger match this year. His scheduling so far has been very conservative but with him now established well inside the top 100 it is time for him to be more ambitious and he should be playing exclusively on the main tour for the remainder of the year.


Whilst I'm hoping to see a majority of tour-level events, the occasional 'big' challenger isn't such a bad thing is it? He got more points from this week than a semi at 250 level would have got him. 



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RJA wrote:

So far there has been no announcement regarding the 2016 challenger tour finals so it may well have quietly been dropped as the bad idea that it always was.

For what it is worth Evo is currently top of the rankings with 526 points (includes Knoxville and Champaign from the end of last year).

As I said up thread he really shouldn't be playing another challenger match this year. His scheduling so far has been very conservative but with him now established well inside the top 100 it is time for him to be more ambitious and he should be playing exclusively on the main tour for the remainder of the year.


Whilst I'm hoping to see a majority of tour-level events, the occasional 'big' challenger isn't such a bad thing is it? He got more points from this week than a semi at 250 level would have got him. 


 I can accept that ranked at a ranking of 80-90 but at 60 I don't. Besides if he were to make the top 50 he could no longer enter the vast majority of challengers (only those during week 2 of slams, Indian Wells and Miami).



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With the emergence of Cam and the like of Jonny and the two young Ewan's, the Scottish team is looking good for when we finally get independence. Especially when Andy is talking about 2020

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Yes. I highlighted Cam's achievements this week (and counting) on the US college thread too, just for completeness.

But what I wonder is: is he 'the best GB prospect every to go down the US college route'?

Or is he the best example of a reasonable prospect who chose to go down the US college route and then BECAME one of our best prospects?

 


I saw him play a British futures when he was 17 and apart from Evo he was the best propsect I've seen out of the British players in a futures (and I've seen basically everyone apart from Kyle).

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It does seem as if Mr Norrie is someone who both was likely to do well - and who has chosen a route that enables him to flourish. A win all around - and a sign, as CD says, of understanding what is the best environment for one's own development.

But, on the value of the university system - I'm not fully aware of all their circumstances, but Liam Broady and Lloyd Glasspool are roughly the same age. Liam Broady had a career high junior ranking of 2; Lloyd Glasspool of 602. They are now separated by five points in the rankings (283 for Mr Broady; 288 for Mr Glasspool). There were probably multiple factors behind the disparity in their junior rankings, and who knows what will happen in the future, but it would certainly seem that university as able to give Mr Glasspool something useful.




 



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Dan is up to a new career high of 60 in the world after that title, and is now British #2 ahead of Kyle and Aljaz.

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Dan is up to a new career high of 60 in the world after that title, and is now British #2 ahead of Kyle and Aljaz.


 I love that we have our 2nd, 3rd and 4th players all leapfrogging each other below WR 100. I would have settled for that five years ago!



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Not sure if this has been posted yet (can't be @rsed to go back very far).

As an aside, does anyone know how Mike Cation pronounces his surname (kay-shun? Or to rhyme with "anion", i.e. an ion with more electrons than protons?)?  I like to know these things & I've never heard anyone speak about him as opposed to referring to him in print.



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Not sure if this has been posted yet (can't be @rsed to go back very far).

As an aside, does anyone know how Mike Cation pronounces his surname (kay-shun? Or to rhyme with "anion", i.e. an ion with more electrons than protons?)?  I like to know these things & I've never heard anyone speak about him as opposed to referring to him in print.


He often says his own name on air - "Mike Cation here at the ............ "

"kay-shun" would be the nearest.



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