Week 32 - Olympic Tennis Competition - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Hard

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Week 32 - Olympic Tennis Competition - Rio de Janeiro, Brazil - Hard

the addict · Tennis legend

I'm totally confused, can't see the magic word "bt" anywhere

(and could someone remind me where that list of players ages was - I can't find it again at this time of night)

-- Edited by the addict on Tuesday 9th of August 2016 10:06:04 PM

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
I'm totally confused, can't see the magic word "bt" anywhere

Precisely! Only the players' names & the set scores, which must be read according to their places in the draw.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
(and could someone remind me where that list of players ages was - I can't find it again at this time of night)

Not on the ITF site for the top players, as far as I'm aware. I always refer to their individual pages on the ATP & WTA sites, which inevitably involves a few more clicks to complete a post! wink That said, for the player involved in the Olympic tournament, all you have to do is click on their respective names in the draw.

the addict · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
the addict wrote:
(and could someone remind me where that list of players ages was - I can't find it again at this time of night)
Not on the ITF site for the top players, as far as I'm aware. I always refer to their individual pages on the ATP & WTA sites, which inevitably involves a few more clicks to complete a post! That said, for the player involved in the Olympic tournament, all you have to do is click on their respective names in the draw.

It was a list that someone posted here, with the players grouped by age. I must be getting old, can't remember who or where or when

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

We finally get the draw for the mixed:

R1: Jack Sock & Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) CR 34 (24+10) vs Jamie Murray & Johanna Konta CR 17 (4+13)

According to Clare Balding just now, Andy & Heather are on stand-by, so to speak...

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

the addict wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
the addict wrote:
(and could someone remind me where that list of players ages was - I can't find it again at this time of night)
Not on the ITF site for the top players, as far as I'm aware. I always refer to their individual pages on the ATP & WTA sites, which inevitably involves a few more clicks to complete a post! That said, for the player involved in the Olympic tournament, all you have to do is click on their respective names in the draw.
It was a list that someone posted here, with the players grouped by age. I must be getting old, can't remember who or where or when

This the one you mean (male players only)?

the addict · Tennis legend

Yes, that's the one, thank you kind sir

wolf · Tennis legend

Unreal atmosphere in the BRA-ROU doubles right now!

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
We finally get the draw for the mixed:
R1: Jack Sock & Bethanie Mattek-Sands (USA) CR 34 (24+10) vs Jamie Murray & Johanna Konta CR 17 (4+13)
According to Clare Balding just now, Andy & Heather are on stand-by, so to speak...

Extract from today's Times:

[...] Murray, who won silver alongside Laura Robson in 2012, yesterday confirmed that he would step aside from the mixed doubles to allow his brother, Jamie, to represent Britain with Konta [it comes after a couple of short paragraphs about Johanna's epic win over Kuznetsova ( biggrin )].

The selection of Konta and Jamie Murray almost certainly meant Heather Watson, who was angry at being left out in favour of Robson four years ago, would miss out on playing in mixed doubles again, despite her being a current Wimbledon champion in the event. Watson's only hope of a reprieve was that she and Andy Murray were second on a list of reserve pairs who could be placed into the draw today if there were withdrawals. But after beating Monaco, Murray hinted he had no great desire to take on extra matches in the mixed event anyway.

The Wimbledon champion had hoped to win a doubles medal alongside his brother, for which they were seeded second, but they were beaten in the first round on Sunday.

Murray said: "The plan was always that Jamie was going to play with Jo," said the younger Murray. Jamie is a way more experienced doubles player than me and Jo is playing well, too, so they have a good chance of winning a medal and then there is an outside shot that me and Heather [ouch!] could get in as well.

It's been really hard to prepare here after the French Open and Wimbledon, as I have not played a match on a hard court for five months.

The defending champion is the top-ranked player in the singles after Novak Djokovic's tearful exit against Juan Martín del Potro on Sunday night. "It was surprising Djokovic lost," Murray said.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Stircrazy wrote:
"The plan was always that Jamie was going to play with Jo," said the younger Murray. Jamie is a way more experienced doubles player than me."
Hmm... That complicates the rankings issue further: Johanna clearly used her singles ranking of 13 to swing her entry with Jamie (they're shown in the PDF version of the draw).

Really? When they were questioned before it started it seemed that they were going to see how it went. I suspect that if Andy was out of the singles and still in the mens dubs it would be him partnering Jo.

indiana · Tennis legend

Hmm, bit unfair the wording of Jo's used her singles ranking to swing her entry. While of course it is her singles ranking that's what much of the doubles fields have used and is perfectly normal. And it is what Heather is using just to be an alternate with Andy who is also using his singles ranking. We have no mixed pair that would have been in if we just used doubles rankings. To get one definitely in had to involve Jo with her singles ranking.

Heather simply wouldn't have been in with Jamie whatever ranking she used, given she would have a lower entry ranking with him than Andy ( Andy's singles ranking vs Jamie's doubles ranking ) so again an alternate. And clearly surely Jamie needed a guaranteed entry. The Times ( she's been done over ) article implies she just needed to be paired with Jamie to be in, which is clearly untrue. It's a poor article.

Love her to bits but the real problem here is Heather's best ranking ( singles or doubles ). That didn't really leave a reasonable option. The British selection made perfect sense. And now Heather yes must hope folk withdraw and that Andy plays ( and while sorry for Heather it would be understandable if he didn't ).

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 10th of August 2016 06:33:24 PM

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

So basically you can win 6 sets of mixed doubles tennis lose 5 sets and get an Olympic medal.....

indiana · Tennis legend

Jaggy1876 wrote:
So basically you can win 6 sets of mixed doubles tennis lose 5 sets and get an Olympic medal.....

... and 3 of these sets won could be MTB sets ( if we are following the London procedure at set all where all 4 of Andy and Laura's matches, 3 wins and a loss on the way to silver, went to a MTB ). Do the mixed also play no Ad ? - actually moee a real hate of mine as it truly corrupts a great scoring system.

Players play with someone they have possibly never ( at least very rarely ) played mixed doubles with before as pairs are cobbled together a few days before from these who don't feel overcommited by other events and may qualify on a singles ranking.

That the Grand Slams have mixed doubles is tennis's internal business and very jolly for many and mildly serious for others, but don't hit the ball too hard straight against a woman. It should have no place whatsoever at the Olympics among so many competitors that strive for many many years to be all they can be both individually and as a team dreaming of these Olympic medals.

-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 11th of August 2016 07:21:12 PM

Spectator · All-time great

First set to Mr Murray 6-1. Fognini got his first game at 5-1.