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Post Info TOPIC: Davis Cup 2016 World Group Semi Final - GB v Argentina - 16th to 18th September
Who should play Day 1 singles? [28 vote(s)]

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RE: Davis Cup 2016 World Group Semi Final - GB v Argentina - 16th to 18th September


I didn't find out the result until I got home just before 9 yesterday evening.  When I left Seville, Andy was on course to take the fourth rubber against Pella.  By the time I reached Stansted, it was in the bag, but Evo was starting to struggle against Mayer.  So near, yet so far.  Great shame.  cry

There was a really nice assessment of the tie by Matthew Syed in today's Times under the headline, "Murray shows he has the heart of true champion", & the sub-heading, "Britain's No1 may have failed to lead his country to the final, but Matthew Syed says his class shone through".  His concluding remarks:

Whatever happens in the future, though, we can only be grateful for what Murray has given to tennis and to the sporting tapestry of the nation.  His relationship with the public has been complex, but the majority have come to realise that he has a heart of a champion.  He doesn't care for spin or manicured PR opportunities, preferring to be himself.  This is an authentic achiever in a world of plastic celebrities.

Andy, for your exertions in Glasgow, and for much else besides, a nation salutes you.

We could hardly have asked for more...



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I don't think the conditions suited Evo and for whatever reason he was nowhere near his US open form, as for Mayer he is a complete machine at DC level, having won his last 9 matches, unbeatable on the day.

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Matthew Syed's comments are always interesting, indeed he has much in common with Andy as an elite (ex) sportsman passionate about every aspect of sport and everything that surrounds it. The question is how on retirement, when eventually it comes, would Andy have the biggest impact on tennis.

Personally given that tennis is a minority sport very much as is table tennis the most effective way would be to use the Syed model (of I exaggerate a littke for effect how a few streets in reading nearly ruled the world) and become a PE teacher in the biggest comprehensive in the country with access to a bank of flood lit tennis courts as opposed to a shed in a gravel pit containing a full sized table tennis table. These are the type of resources Judy should have already.

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Here are the five tennis matches from last week that saw the most money matched on Betfair. Dominated by the GB v Argentina Davis Cup tie...

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Well, I guess British tennis is at least keeping the betting economy going. Shame the players don't see any of it....

That Vickery-Tig match is rather strange, though.....

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Coup Droit wrote:


Here are the five tennis matches from last week that saw the most money matched on Betfair. [...]


pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs-F27BWYAA3uwR.jpg

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That Vickery-Tig match is rather strange, though.....


 I suspect the length of the match and the closeness of it had something to do with that.



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Kounosuke wrote:
Coup Droit wrote:


Here are the five tennis matches from last week that saw the most money matched on Betfair. [...]


pbs.twimg.com/media/Cs-F27BWYAA3uwR.jpg

[...]

That Vickery-Tig match is rather strange, though.....


 I suspect the length of the match and the closeness of it had something to do with that.


Yes, I can think of some other possible reasons (though two of them are linked to the length and closeness):

- perhaps it was the only significant match on at that date and time (or the only interesting one from a betting point of view, anyway), though I haven't checked that

- it being a close WTA match, there were probably loads of breaks and changes in momentum

- lots of that money will have been getting rolled over - e.g. bet on a break in one game, use all or part of the winnings to bet on a break in the next game, etc - and hence counted multiple times



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steven wrote:
Yes, I can think of some other possible reasons (though two of them are linked to the length and closeness):

- perhaps it was the only significant match on at that date and time (or the only interesting one from a betting point of view, anyway), though I haven't checked that

- it being a close WTA match, there were probably loads of breaks and changes in momentum

- lots of that money will have been getting rolled over - e.g. bet on a break in one game, use all or part of the winnings to bet on a break in the next game, etc - and hence counted multiple times


 ... but someone else has checked (or was betting at the time) - @Tenpin_John on Twitter says: "1,000,000% not fixed. Was the biggest match out on Tuesday evening after the Champions League finished"

So there you have it, perfect timing, perfect length (i.e. very long) and the perfect scoreline (about as many twists and turns as you can get) from an in-play betting point of view. Sometimes (most of the time, in my experience), reality (or coincidence, if you like) is more plausible than conspiracy!



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FINAL: Croatia 2 Argentina 3

Well done Argentina and especially Juan Martin del Potro after all he has been through with injuries

From 2-1 down, first del Potro beat Cilic in 5 sets having lost the first two sets and then Delbonis beat Karlovic in straight sets.

This time del Potro played two singles and the doubles with Leonardo Mayer, winning his two singles matches. The following year proved terrific for Davis Cup winners Djokovic and Murray. Let's see how del Potro goes in 2017, he's looking not bad.

Argentina and especially Tandil will be preparing a welcome home !



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Was a great final! Watched the 2nd singles on Friday and then most of both yesterday. The Argentinian fans almost turned it into a home tie with their support. Looked a great atmosphere!

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Was great. And well-deserved for Argentina. Hard on Karlovic - 5th rubber in particular. Scary thing is that unless he wins a few early tournaments, del Potro is going to be an unseeded floater at the AO.

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So pleased Argentina won - coming from behind, never won it before and away from home and what a joy to see Del Potro achieve this after getting an Olympic Silver medal - amazing year for him regardless of ranking level.

Will certainly be dangerous in AO and 2017 generally. Good way to finish the year.



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