DavidC and others can give you a full run-down Bob but here's a couple of pointers.

You've actually got two different sections to your post.

The lad who said 2.2 is actually referring to his GB national rating - it's basically an adult LTA rating (all out players have one, ask one of the lads next time you see them) but there's a slightly different calculation for juniors (you need more 'counting' matches). The LTA site says:

"For junior and adult players there are 20 rating bands, starting with 10.2, which is the lowest, progressing to 10.1, 9.2, 9.1, 8.2 etc. until you reach 1.1, which is the highest rating."

So 2.2 is the fourth best category i.e. 1.1, 1.2, 2.1, then 2.2

The LTA also has a ranking system, for adults and each age group, which is what he means when talking about being GB No. 12 in U14. This is not just the 'best rated' (which would make sense) but a completely different system.

Other people understand this system really well so I'll leave it to them (never made sense to me ....) but the site is:

www.lta.org.uk/competitions/player-ratings-rankings/british-tennis-ratings/

www.lta.org.uk/competitions/player-ratings-rankings/british-tennis-rankings/


However, the ITF Junior system is quite straight-forward. There are Graded tournaments which go from Grade 5 (the 'easiest') to Grade A (Junior Grand Slams). There's a point system for each (just like 10k, 15k, 25k etc). The points are as follows:


Singles Points

ITF Grade               A     1     2        3    4    5

Winner                 250  150   100   60  40  30
Runner-up            180  100   75     45  30  20
Semi-Finalist         120   80    50     30  20  15
Quarter-Finalist      80    60    30     20  15  10
Losers in last 16    50    30     20    15  10   5
Losers in last 32    30    20     10

You also get points for the doubles, see site below for table, with 25% of those points counting towards your points total as singles and doubles points are combined for kids to give them a combined ranking.

www.itftennis.com/juniors/rankings/ranking-points.aspx

Winning a Grade 3 is very good (although not as good, of course, as winning a Grade 2), The table above gives an 'equivalence', if you like.

The ITF Graded events are open to all juniors but there is also a completely separate Tennis Europe system for U16, U14 and U12 events which acts as a sort of stepping stone to get up to ITF junior events.

My own take, especially as a non-LTA person, is to ignore the LTA system (its claims of equivalence, say, to the French system are miles off and completely wrong) and just to focus on the ITF ranking of a junior. For the older junior, this is perfect. For the U14, say, it's true that they might not have played many ITFs and the LTA one will be better.

Hope that helps. As said, others will fill in the numerous gaps !

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 9th of July 2016 07:52:37 AM

Thanks Bob for the idea of a sticky thread with details of rankings and event grades (done), and CD for the helpful input towards this. Like CD I have not bothered much with the detail of the LTA's rankings and ratings system, as my focus is more on international Junior competition. The tables the LTA use for ranking points appear to be those with links on the right hand side of the page CD highlights, which gives 650 points for under 18 Grade 3 winners, 304 for under 16 Grade 3 runner-up and 760 for Open Grade 3 doubles runner-up (all applicable to the player you mention, as he entered all of these events) .

Regarding ITF ranking points/events if you click on the link CD provides it also shows bonus points for Grand Slams and strong Grade As along with the points structure for Regional Championships (the European is a grade B1 held every July).

Tennis Europe (TE) offers Category 1, 2 and 3 events with Category 1 the strongest (including European Championships in July and Masters in October - for the European Championship finalists plus the top 6 European ranked players at under 14 and under 16 levels ). Individual rankings are formed by your best 6 singles events plus best 2 doubles and best team event (Winter or Summer Cup). Under 16 TE rankings also include an allowance for junior ITF rankings, and include non European players (who are ineligible for the Masters). For more detail it is best to study Appendix B of the Rules and Regulations, which can be found at www.tenniseurope.org/page.aspx

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-- Edited by emma on Sunday 2nd of October 2016 02:03:10 AM

The ITF event descriptors and points have changed since this thread was started so here is the latest information (sorry about the formatting):

ITF JUNIOR POINTS TABLE

W F SF QF R16 R32
Singles
Grand Slam* 1000 700 490 300 180 90
Youth Olympics 1000 700 490 300 180 90
ITF Junior Finals 750 450 320/250 200/185/165/150 - -
J500 500 350 250 150 90 45
J300 300 210 140 100 60 30
J200 200 140 100 60 36 18
J100 100 60 36 20 10 5
J60 60 36 18 10 5 -
J30 30 18 9 5 2 -

Doubles
Grand Slam 750 525 367 225 135 -
Youth Olympics 750 525 367 225 135 -
J500 375 262 187 112 67 -
J300 225 157 105 75 45 -
J200 150 105 75 45 27 -
J100 75 45 27 15 7 -
J60 45 27 14 7 - -
J30 25 13 6 3 - -

International Team Competitions
#1 Player Win** - 95 75 50 - -
#2 Player Win** - 75 50 20 - -
Doubles Win** - 75 50 20 - -

*Qualifiers losing in the first round of the main draw will receive 30 ranking points.
Players losing in the final round of qualifying will receive 20 ranking points.
**Points are to be given to a player for one result only (their best) in the competition.
Only players from the best 8 teams will be considered for allocation of World Ranking points.