Week 25 - ATP 250 - Nottingham (grass)

RJA · Hall of fame

RE: Week 25 - ATP 250 - Nottingham (grass)

indiana · Tennis legend

R2: Kyle Edmund WR 68 lost to (4) Alexandr Dolgopolov (UKR) WR 32 (CH 13 in January 2012) 6-4 7-6(5)

R2: Dan Evans WR 95 beat (16) Ricardas Berankis (LTU) WR 53 (CH 50 last month) 2-6 7-6(3) 6-2

R3/L16: Dan Evans WR 95 vs (2) Pablo Cuevas (URU) WR 25 (CH 21 March 2015)

TMH · Futures qualifying

Cuevas got any grass pedigree?

Kounosuke · Intermediate Club Player

TMH wrote:
Cuevas got any grass pedigree?

Let's take a look at his grass court matches this decade.

Nottingham 2016: Beat Robert, now vs Evans

Wimbledon 2015: Lost to Kudla

Nottingham 2015: Beat Sela, then lost to Querrey

Halle 2015: Lost to Janowicz

Wimbledon 2014: Lost to Stepanek.

For a seeded player, the answer to that question is clearly no.

-- Edited by Kounosuke on Tuesday 21st of June 2016 10:09:25 PM

RJA · Hall of fame

Kounosuke wrote:
TMH wrote:
Cuevas got any grass pedigree?
Let's take a look at his grass court matches this decade.
Nottingham 2016: Beat Robert, now vs Evans
Wimbledon 2015: Lost to Kudla
Nottingham 2015: Beat Sela, then lost to Querrey
Halle 2015: Lost to Janowicz
Wimbledon 2014: Lost to Stepanek.

For a seeded player, the answer to that question is clearly no.

-- Edited by Kounosuke on Tuesday 21st of June 2016 10:09:25 PM

In fairness all of those defeats were against good grass court players but I certainly agree that this is a decent opportunity for Evo.

stevemcqueen · Futures qualifying

For a player who is 30 yrs old and who broke into the top 100 in 2007, he has played very, very few grass court tournaments. He can't have been injured every June! The above list seems comprehensive, he has not played any other grass court events. Clearly, he must really hate the stuff. It is an excellent opportunity for Dan who I think has under performed so far this grass court season.

philwrig · Hall of fame

RJA wrote:
philwrig wrote:
No one seems to have mentioned as to why Kyle's match wasn't on centre, when it was the MOTD. Court 2 was full to capacity, whilst Evo's match on centre was half full.
It was certainly a curious decision although I should point out the obvious that a half full centre court (it wasn't even half full) would have more people than a packed court 2. If the matches had been reversed centre court would have still been half full at best while court 2 would still have been packed.
I would imagine that if you polled the people in attendance that Kyle's match would have been their No1 choice for the day and that Evo's would be a close No2 and so I was surprised that they weren't both scheduled on centre. It's not as if Muller v Vesely or Cuevas v Robert were matches of such stature that they had to be on centre. That said I don't really object to having a popular match on the outside the courts as it gives something for people with just ground passes, although there were several other very popular players on the outside courts without adding Kyle to the mix. As I already said the dumb part was scheduling Kyle and Evo at similar times as I am sure plenty of people wanted to watch both.

I suppose the difference was that Kyle was also playing a 'name' player as opposed to Evo against Berankis. Anyway we'll just have to disagree about that one. The fact that they started at exactly same time was of course the real killer. I watched the 1st and last sets of Evo's match and the 2nd one of Kyle's.

RJA · Hall of fame

philwrig wrote:
RJA wrote:
philwrig wrote:
No one seems to have mentioned as to why Kyle's match wasn't on centre, when it was the MOTD. Court 2 was full to capacity, whilst Evo's match on centre was half full.
It was certainly a curious decision although I should point out the obvious that a half full centre court (it wasn't even half full) would have more people than a packed court 2. If the matches had been reversed centre court would have still been half full at best while court 2 would still have been packed.
I would imagine that if you polled the people in attendance that Kyle's match would have been their No1 choice for the day and that Evo's would be a close No2 and so I was surprised that they weren't both scheduled on centre. It's not as if Muller v Vesely or Cuevas v Robert were matches of such stature that they had to be on centre. That said I don't really object to having a popular match on the outside the courts as it gives something for people with just ground passes, although there were several other very popular players on the outside courts without adding Kyle to the mix. As I already said the dumb part was scheduling Kyle and Evo at similar times as I am sure plenty of people wanted to watch both.
I suppose the difference was that Kyle was also playing a 'name' player as opposed to Evo against Berankis. Anyway we'll just have to disagree about that one. The fact that they started at exactly same time was of course the real killer. I watched the 1st and last sets of Evo's match and the 2nd one of Kyle's.

I am not sure there is any disagreement between us on this.

On a wider point I actually think that top players are scheduled on the main courts too often these days. I long for the days when a defending Wimbledon champion is sent out to court 2.

-- Edited by RJA on Wednesday 22nd of June 2016 09:28:27 AM

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

Evo started well 3 break points at 2 - 1 up. Missed a forehand on break point nade a comment nothing in it just encouragement and what he should have done on the point, line judge complained to the umpire, who in turn issued a code violation. Which like previous weeks has affected Dan who is still talking about it over a game later. as we are its 2 - 2 0 - 30

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

broken to love. Which was purely down to being annoyed at the code violation

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

Just point out up to that point Evo looked like he was on top form. ... as i type he seems to have got it together and now has break point... TAKEN!! back on serve 3 - 3

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

4 - 3 up

RJA · Hall of fame

Good that he has got himself back together but he really, really needs to stop doing that. Unless the line judge was lying, which I genuinely doubt, he can have no complaints about the code violation. He got away with one yesterday when he referred to himself as tw*t but if an official hears you then there is only going to be one result.

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

15 - 40 2 break points, both saved. On serve at 4 - 4

Jimmy09 · Intermediate Club Player

5 - 4 Evo good hold!