Wimbledon Wildcards - Men

scottie1 · Futures level

RE: Wimbledon Wildcards - Men

indiana · Tennis legend

I see the points re the media very often making something of nothing very much, as may be the case here, and certainly the Daily Fail, but with that it probably pays to be savvy but not sure that's Dan's greatest strength ...

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

JonH wrote:
I might be wrong but I think Dan was doing a press interview post his qf or sf match at Surbiton and was effectively musing, train of thoughts type stuff, which got turned into this "urging" stuff that the press like to do - hyperbole out of nothing.

I think it is fair enough - if LTA said buckle down, and perform , and you'll possibly see the wild cards start to come then I think it is quite Dan like to effectively say"done all that, no lets see if the LTA deliver". I think it goes on to say that he doesnt expect one and realises that given the mistakes he made, many folks would be against it, so overall I think Dan was quite balanced and reasonable, effectively thinking out loud. But the Daily Fail likes to make headlines where there arent any. Probably a slow news day!
Of course, I can imagine, the LTA will have said exactly that - perform, keep clean, get fit and we will see. Problem for them is I think they have got caught now Dan has done all that - they are probably running both ways right now wondering what to do - please the baying hoards who want to burn Dan or play to the lefty liberals like me and give him the WC! Easiest thing to do is bury their heads, so the SE for Nottingham solved their immediate problems. Issue for them is the problem will keep coming back!
I think where it will become really impossible for the LTA is when/if Dan plays Cam later this week - win there and the case is v difficult to ignore!

That makes more sense, just the Fail, well, just being the Fail.

I hope that that happens, it's a shame they're in the same quarter, but Dan's got to get past Stakovsky first, and he's no mug. Also I bet Dan will be tired as he's had alot of matches in the last week.

Wakey · Junior player

Mark1968 wrote:
Leaving aside the fact that Evans is an unpleasant stain on society, there is no point in him playing pre qualies. Not only will he will walk through the draw but it would mean punishing him again. He has served his sentence albeit a ridiculously lenient one and it would also mean that someone else will miss a chance to earn a few bob and have a shot a qualifying. You can't give him a MD WC as this would make his ban fairly pointless if he is allowed to just walk straight back in to the top tier. So a Q WC it should be. Good luck to any of his opponents.

Toot, toot for now....

lenient? Are you having a joke? Cocaine use may be wrong but unless he has lines of it lined up on his seat to take every sit down there is no performance benefit. It shouldnt even be a substance on the banned list for most sports yet it almost always sees people like Dan getting longer bans than those who take PED's

steven · Tennis legend

Helen40 wrote:
hmmm, doesn't seem like the wisest move for Dan to have gone public, especially with the Daily Fail. Given his current form, and assuming his attitude is professional I would say either MD or QWC depending on how he does this week, as he's proved he's up to top 100 standard. Play offs is just silly for all concerned.I'm not a Dan fan, but common sense should prevail.

Just read that. Seems really stupid, especially when plenty of other people seem to be advocating for him already. Who knows exactly what he said and how he said it though.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Mark1968 wrote:
Leaving aside the fact that Evans is an unpleasant stain on society, there is no point in him playing pre qualies. Not only will he will walk through the draw but it would mean punishing him again. He has served his sentence albeit a ridiculously lenient one and it would also mean that someone else will miss a chance to earn a few bob and have a shot a qualifying. You can't give him a MD WC as this would make his ban fairly pointless if he is allowed to just walk straight back in to the top tier. So a Q WC it should be. Good luck to any of his opponents.

Toot, toot for now....

Whats unacceptable here is your first comment here.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Bouncy's sixpenn'orth from his column in today's Metro:

AFTER a year-long ban for taking cocaine, Dan Evans (above) has served his time for being an idiot and deserves a wild card into Wimbledon. I have no influence in those matters, but he looks dedicated and I enjoyed watching him play through the qualifying and all the way to the semi-finals at the Surbiton Challenger. I believe in redemption as much as I believe in victories.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Bouncy's sixpenn'orth from his column in today's Metro:
AFTER a year-long ban for taking cocaine, Dan Evans (above) has served his time for being an idiot and deserves a wild card into Wimbledon. I have no influence in those matters, but he looks dedicated and I enjoyed watching him play through the qualifying and all the way to the semi-finals at the Surbiton Challenger. I believe in redemption as much as I believe in victories.

Despite general opinion, I actually have a slight soft spot for Bouncy. (Unlike John Lloyd who has absolutely no redeeming features whatsoever).

And this reinforces it.

Jiwan · Club Coach

Lets summarise:

Dan broke the rules, has served a ban and returned to the full tour a few months ago. Based on what Dan has said about 'proving his commitment /fitness' he should be MDQWC . Considering his current form which would make a mockery of the pre draw /tire him out before the next rounds. There are plenty of points to pick up in qualies also and if he can't get through there.... then. Also, don't bite the hand that feeds if you want an ongoing relationship with sponsors /LTA etc

I'd also suggest getting a publicist if he can afford one. He is a walking liability, whether we like him or not

indiana · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
Bouncy's sixpenn'orth from his column in today's Metro:
AFTER a year-long ban for taking cocaine, Dan Evans (above) has served his time for being an idiot and deserves a wild card into Wimbledon. I have no influence in those matters, but he looks dedicated and I enjoyed watching him play through the qualifying and all the way to the semi-finals at the Surbiton Challenger. I believe in redemption as much as I believe in victories.

Despite general opinion, I actually have a slight soft spot for Bouncy. (Unlike John Lloyd who has absolutely no redeeming features whatsoever).
And this reinforces it.

At times, although he can be sooo annoying ( though he may be a revelation with facts and figs given he is following Steven on twitter again ). But that's well worded, especially "idiot". And once he has served his punishment for being an idiot, not a doper or cheat, you even moreso should move on and judge Dan now just on his tennis.

And yes, Jiwan, his tennis is doing great talking, I just indeed worry when his mouth starts to move, because some will take note ( if maybe more than they should ).

flamingowings · All-time great

Jiwan wrote:
Lets summarise:

Dan broke the rules, has served a ban and returned to the full tour a few months ago. Based on what Dan has said about 'proving his commitment /fitness' he should be MDQWC . Considering his current form which would make a mockery of the pre draw /tire him out before the next rounds. There are plenty of points to pick up in qualies also and if he can't get through there.... then. Also, don't bite the hand that feeds if you want an ongoing relationship with sponsors /LTA etc

I'd also suggest getting a publicist if he can afford one. He is a walking liability, whether we like him or not

Well I still don't think he is on twitter again since he deleted it after his presser for the ban, so that's something at least.

Jiwan · Club Coach

flamingowings wrote:
Jiwan wrote:
Lets summarise:

Dan broke the rules, has served a ban and returned to the full tour a few months ago. Based on what Dan has said about 'proving his commitment /fitness' he should be MDQWC . Considering his current form which would make a mockery of the pre draw /tire him out before the next rounds. There are plenty of points to pick up in qualies also and if he can't get through there.... then. Also, don't bite the hand that feeds if you want an ongoing relationship with sponsors /LTA etc

I'd also suggest getting a publicist if he can afford one. He is a walking liability, whether we like him or not
Well I still don't think he is on twitter again since he deleted it after his presser for the ban, so that's something at least.

Wow, I forgot about his social media. Yes, that's a step in the right direction

indiana · Tennis legend

It's good that the two Wards and Evo got R1 wins in Nottingham to more reinforce some sort of WC to add to Jay and Liam. I'd say these 5 should indeed get WCs. It would be a real struggle without them getting involved.

Beyond these 5 ( plus of course MD entrants, Kyle and Cam ) there is no real form at all from previous WC recipients with not another player in the race top 500.

So if looking for further WCs will they still go with the likes of Corrie, Klein and Glasspool or bypass them for the likes of McHugh and Loffhagen even though they are for now still relatively far down the rankings? Be interesting.

Jonny Gray could be in the equation but he's not really been pushing on. Maybe even Luke, who can still give singles a decent go when he has the odd outing and should like the grass.

Ian1314 · Lower Club Player

I think Dan has been our best male player on grass this year - based on potential he should get a Wimbledon main draw wild card. Don't expect that will happen though.

flamingowings · All-time great

Jiwan wrote:
flamingowings wrote:
Jiwan wrote:
Lets summarise:

Dan broke the rules, has served a ban and returned to the full tour a few months ago. Based on what Dan has said about 'proving his commitment /fitness' he should be MDQWC . Considering his current form which would make a mockery of the pre draw /tire him out before the next rounds. There are plenty of points to pick up in qualies also and if he can't get through there.... then. Also, don't bite the hand that feeds if you want an ongoing relationship with sponsors /LTA etc

I'd also suggest getting a publicist if he can afford one. He is a walking liability, whether we like him or not
Well I still don't think he is on twitter again since he deleted it after his presser for the ban, so that's something at least.
Wow, I forgot about his social media. Yes, that's a step in the right direction

Social media - is that where he made those comments about Bedene? If so, just as well he stays off it, although I have seen a twitter account called Dan Evans fan club or similar around.