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Grass Season Wild Cards?


According to the LTA website Edmund, Evans and Ward are all playing the ATP 250 at Nottingham (same week as Wimbledon qualifying).

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I'm not sure that even Aljaz will make the cut for Nottm so it'd be Bedene, Edmund & Evans.
Nottm is only tournament that week, Aljaz might make it in but WCs to Edmund, Evans and Broady
Wimbledon is tougher. Probably WCs to Evo, Wardy, Broady,Glasspool and Klein if fit

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Aljaz doesn't like the grass and only played one warm up tournament last year.

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Really, you'd think with Bedene and his over the top attempts to say he is British, would at least lie and say he loves grass.



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Vandenburg wrote:

Really, you'd think with Bedene and his over the top attempts to say he is British, would at least lie and say he loves grass.


These would be the over the top attempts that exist solely in your own mind?



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It is very unusual for the UK to have a top 5 U.S. College player as a sophomore and that probably has equivalence of meriting direct entry to qualifying and by extrapolation a MD wildcard, given the restrictions on monies a college player can accept and although food at Wimbledon is horrendously priced the value would probably be in playing more games and therefore a WC for Wimbledon qualys a must, with prize money mitigating expenses?

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For Lloyd , despite his great progress this year, I also see the value for him is in Wimbledon qualies not the main draw

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For Lloyd , despite his great progress this year, I also see the value for him is in Wimbledon qualies not the main draw


Absolutely. For all Lloyd's progress this year we are talking about a guy who hasn't even played in, let alone won, a main draw match at challenger level. A qualifying wild card would strike me as far more sensible although perhaps a main draw doubles wild card (maybe with Evo) would be a good idea, give him a taste of the Grand Slam experience without throwing him in at the deep end.



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Agreed on the singles: QWC much better and fairer to him. On the doubles, if he were being given a WC, I'd give it to him with Ed Corrie.



-- Edited by Spectator on Monday 25th of April 2016 12:22:40 PM

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I honestly don't know quite how Lloyd's name is in the running here for a MD wildcard.

I'm a big fan, (and have an old bet (a fiver!) on the guy to be a top 200 player, at great odds), but he's miles off the level that merits a MD Grand Slam place.

No challenger success, no grass experience, no special LTA 'friends', no Davis Cup participation......

Of course, some of this could change in the next 4-8 weeks (as it could with the others too) but it's not there at the moment.



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When Murray was given WC to Queens and Wimbledon, what was his ranking? He had won the junior US OPEN though and was just 18. Not 22.

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Mid 350s. But there were several differences - junior achievements, youth relative to ranking ... and he'd won his first Davis Cup match in the previous March.

I remember that match (the DC one): I was just beginning to follow tennis ... saw who was playing (David Sherwood and some young player I'd never heard of versus Erlich and Ram) and thought it was a lost cause, so I wouldn't bother following it. Then took a look at the Beeb website and saw that the GB pair had won ...



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I don't expect there to be handouts when it comes to WCs, each player will have had to earn it by showing the requisite ability and form. Over recent years the LTA have set the bar much higher in terms of a ranking which will earn you a WC for say Wimby. I'm hoping Liam will get one but he needs to be much closer to the top 200 mark to be a dead cert. Don't think Lloyd unless he does something sensational over the next 6 weeks will get one. It's a similar situation on the Ladies side, there just isn't that many viable candidates. I'd go with Evo/Wardy/Liam for MD and Wardy/Milts/Lloyd/Bambo/Ed for QWCs as it stands and then add in 3 more who show the best form over the grass court swing.

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There'll no doubt be a WC playoff again, but I'm not sure that works 100%, with the likes of Bloomers able to have a crack at it.

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I don't expect there to be handouts when it comes to WCs, each player will have had to earn it by showing the requisite ability and form. Over recent years the LTA have set the bar much higher in terms of a ranking which will earn you a WC for say Wimby. I'm hoping Liam will get one but he needs to be much closer to the top 200 mark to be a dead cert. Don't think Lloyd unless he does something sensational over the next 6 weeks will get one. It's a similar situation on the Ladies side, there just isn't that many viable candidates. I'd go with Evo/Wardy/Liam for MD and Wardy/Milts/Lloyd/Bambo/Ed for QWCs as it stands and then add in 3 more who show the best form over the grass court swing.

 

Sensational.  Here is my prediction.

Glasspool will win the posh surrey challenger, is it called surbiton?

As a result of winning this, he will be unable to qualify for Queens, and will thus too late for a WC.

However, he will be given a WC for Shottingham ATP, where he is reach the semi.  As a result he will be given a last min WC to Wim where he will reach the 2nd round.

He will then travel to that stupid grass american atp tourn that made Greg look like the big man for so many years, and he will win it.

Odds please?



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