I think if someone who's about 700 or so beats a player in the top 500, that's an upset, even if a fair number of people thought she might stand a good chance.
I think if someone who's about 700 or so beats a player in the top 500, that's an upset, even if a fair number of people thought she might stand a good chance.
Yes, but her current WR 695 is nothing like Gabi's "true" position, it is a ranking based on just 7 counters from basically the second half of last year.
She should have a decent chance against a player in the 400s ( if that is a much more true ranking ) since, as I've said, I would think she'll be top 500 later this year if she stays fit. Just double her now 28 points from 8 completed counting tournaments and she'd be there and one would hope she's improving so the next 8 counters and following ones would be better overall.
The bookies will undoubtably look at much more than rankings unless they want to set up for a fall.
Good decisive looking win though for Gabi, well done.
-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 24th of February 2016 02:56:21 PM
Oh absolutely. I've got Gabi as top 500 by the end of the year (IF she plays a fair number of senior events coz, as Phil said re Maia, it's difficult with the juniors to know their plans and obviously for the actual ranking - as opposed to their potential ranking - that's an issue). And Jo is fully ranked, so no question, it was always a result in the making.
And bookies don't really decide anything, or look at anything, rankings or otherwise, they just reflect the money flows, which is a fair enough, so obviously quite a few people were in agreement.
But I think it's harsh on Gabi not to call this an 'upset' - it rather implies that she 'should' win it, which is hardly fair.
The bookies will most certainly make judgements, most obviously initially when they set the opening prices, and those will still weigh, if less as time goes on, against the money flow.
Re Gabi, I don't think it's harsh at all to say that realistically she should have a decent chance as a young player probably fairly rapidly moving towards the top 500 against a seasoned 10K 400s ranked player. Not to say she should / has to win, but reflecting her progress. That, to me, it is no real upset, is just appreciation of that progress.
-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 24th of February 2016 03:12:16 PM
Not arguing the point in principle, honestly, just curious, Indy, but looking at the summary of odds/bets before the match, it seems that Gabi was clearly the underddog.
Gabriella Taylor vs Josephine Boualem betting: click here to show all odds 1XBet 2.54 1.49 93.9% 08:51 24hBet 2.40 1.48 91.5% 08:44 Bet365 2.50 1.50 93.8% 08:45 Bet-at-Home 2.39 1.47 91.0% 08:47 Betadonis 2.40 1.48 91.5% 08:43 BetRedKings 2.40 1.45 90.4% 08:48 Boylesports 2.50 1.50 93.8% 08:45 Coral 2.10 1.67 93.0% 07:30 Jetbull 2.40 1.48 91.5% 08:43 William Hill 2.10 1.67 93.0% 20:48
Assuming I'm reading that right, surely that means the bookies had Jo as favourite, and it was an 'upset'? Am I missing something? I know paulisi mentioned it too but where did it have Gabi as favourite? Not initially, seemingly.
-- Edited by Coup Droit on Wednesday 24th of February 2016 03:49:14 PM