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Week 46 - ATP World Tour Finals - London (Hard)


Ratty wrote:
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How important the Davis Cup is v the World Tour Finals depends in part, I suspect, on the country in which you reside.  


I'm not so sure about that. In Britain, Wimbledon gets 40,000 paying customers per day, a huge TV audience, and wall-to-wall Press coverage. The Davis Cup SEMI-FINAL between GB and Australia was in a 5,000(?) seat venue, with minimal TV and Press.


I think that's the point I was making, Ratty (barring the fact that I was comparing the DC with the WTF, not with Wimbledon). It's not such a big thing here. It is in France, Argentina and some other countries. It's not simply about whether a team is involved or not in a particular tie. It's about the history of the thing for a given country.



-- Edited by Spectator on Thursday 19th of November 2015 02:29:55 PM

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Federer and Djokovic both win, to finish 1st and 2nd respectively in their group.

Was reading about the journalist in Andy's post match PC that less than amused him by asking if he had been seeking to avoid Novak in a potential SF. As Andy pointed out that Fed chap is rather good too and that certainly includes at the 02, quite apart from having just beaten Novak.



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 19th of November 2015 11:51:28 PM

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Yes Indy, I found these passages quite interesting:

"I don't think that's a question. That's your opinion. You're basically telling me that the format is wrong."
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"I don't think it's right to tell me that the format is wrong, that I would rather finish second than first, when that's not true in my mind."

Not impressed indeed.

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Didn't know where to put this - should go in the juniors too (under other events?) but Novak Djoko took time out yesterday to meet and do a talk thing with Jake Hersey (one of our top U16s).

www.youtube.com/watch

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Very rare that I would say this, but Go Stan.

Time for Andy to get back on the clay.

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I don't like Wawrinka but when he keeps the ball in the court he is virtually unplayable, he is so powerful. I'm not a fan of power play. I couldn't make my mind up whether I wanted Andy to win, or to lose so he didn't have to play at the weekend, but could get in some more practice on clay. So it was a stress-free match for me. Now if Stan will kindly put Fed out tomorrow, I will forgive him for winning today. . .

Edit - what, no result posted yet? Stan won 7-6(4) 6-4

 



-- Edited by Madeline on Friday 20th of November 2015 10:32:19 PM

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Madeline wrote:
Edit - what, no result posted yet? Stan won 7-6(4) 6-4

Couldn't be @rsed!  wink  With the DC final looming, this week's been a bit of non-event IMHO. hmm



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Yep I agree, Andys done his duty but this year has a bigger fish to fry!

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Thought that this was relevant coming up to the DC final. Looks like old Dave wants a final few minutes in the sun.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3328742/Andy-Murray-doesn-t-British-tennis-blasts-David-Lloyd.html

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BeefyDeedz wrote:

Thought that this was relevant coming up to the DC final. Looks like old Dave wants a final few minutes in the sun.

www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3328742/Andy-Murray-doesn-t-British-tennis-blasts-David-Lloyd.html


This got me wondering about the process of getting one's opinion publicised in the Mail. Like, they aren't going to run an article with my thoughts on Andy Murray.

There's another article with the same date by Martha Kelner about the Lloyds:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/tennis/article-3328797/David-Lloyd-s-one-person-qualified-run-LTA-me.html

So Martha seems to have flown out to see David & John Lloyd in Florida. In between slagging off the LTA (oh, yawn), they reminisce about their playing careers (as if we don't have enough of this in your sh*t TV commentary with Bouncy), and boast about their wealth and their celebrity friends (jesus, it's pathetic).

The life of a sports journalist obviously ain't as much fun as it might seem! (And bloody hell, good luck to Martha when she puts in her expense claim for this dismal waste of the Mail's money.) 



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David Lloyd has always been a . . . I'd better not say it. Greg has done a lot of work with British Juniors, Andy (whose time is much more limited because he is still playing) does his bit by training with other British Players. Along with his mother he helps Scottish youngsters. The only one who might be criticised is Henman, who seems to spend most of his time on the Golf Course. But then, he retired from the game, I retired from a life in accountancy and don't feel obliged to go back and hold the hands of articled clerks (if they still have such things these days).

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Madeline wrote:

David Lloyd has always been a . . . I'd better not say it. Greg has done a lot of work with British Juniors, Andy (whose time is much more limited because he is still playing) does his bit by training with other British Players. Along with his mother he helps Scottish youngsters. The only one who might be criticised is Henman, who seems to spend most of his time on the Golf Course. But then, he retired from the game, I retired from a life in accountancy and don't feel obliged to go back and hold the hands of articled clerks (if they still have such things these days).


 Yes exactly. Never understood those clamouring for former top sportsmen to remain in the sport after they retire. They have no obligation to do so, and if they'd rather spend their retirement with their families or doing what makes them happy, then good for them.



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TMH wrote:
Madeline wrote:

David Lloyd has always been a . . . I'd better not say it. Greg has done a lot of work with British Juniors, Andy (whose time is much more limited because he is still playing) does his bit by training with other British Players. Along with his mother he helps Scottish youngsters. The only one who might be criticised is Henman, who seems to spend most of his time on the Golf Course. But then, he retired from the game, I retired from a life in accountancy and don't feel obliged to go back and hold the hands of articled clerks (if they still have such things these days).


 Yes exactly. Never understood those clamouring for former top sportsmen to remain in the sport after they retire. They have no obligation to do so, and if they'd rather spend their retirement with their families or doing what makes them happy, then good for them.


 

For my tuppence worth, I agree.

And I don't give any real credit to people who stay and 'give back' to tennis - but who get paid handsomely to do so - that's just a job, like any other.



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I can't help asking why the Lloyds haven't set up their academy in Britain, instead of in the States.

ratty, there's a reply option on the quoted article to get your opinion heard.



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The Times has a story today (behind paywall, obviously) where Andy Murray and Tim Henman "hit back" at David Lloyd.

I particularly liked Tim's quip:

"I always remembered it had to be a very slow news day for David Lloyd to be rung up."



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