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RE: Top 500


paulisi wrote:

There are a few other men capable off breaking into the top 500 very soon.
Ali Gray, Henry Searle. Hamish Stewart, Ryan Peniston, Stuart Parker, George Loffhagen, Emil Hudd and Max Basing

I would say 20 in top 500 will happen again very shortly, 10 in the top 250 is a bit more difficult.


 We're six weeks on and we're still at 18

Henry Searle is playing a challenger this week and those points go on straight away (yes?) and he doesn't have any points coming off for the rest of the year. So he's got a good chance.

Emile is playing in Australia but ITF25s go on a week later, no? 

And he's got a LOT of points to defend from last year over the next few weeks

No one else is playing this week so I'm not sure the 'very shortly' is happening quite yet cry



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Ryan Peniston will get there if he wins tomorrow and plays again next week.
Henry Searle is down to play a challenger again next week. A win would be enough.
Ali Gray has points to defend, but a victory this week would be sufficient.
Stu Parker is down for a 15k next week. If he goes deep he could make it.
Emily Hudd is still going in a rain impacted Australia for the next couple of weeks and could easily pick up enough points.

Max Basing is playing this week and has an outside chance.

If would have happened earlier as I expected Henry Searle and Ali Gray to pick up a win, but managed to lose several weeks on the run in round 1.

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Fingers crossed, we're definitely close

That's always the problem though, quite a few 'ifs'

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I'd been noticing the progress this week and possibilties for the 02/12 rankings ( even got a nice wee table of the contenders' round by round points ).

But I did think it maybe best to just let it all play out and if we got to the 20 then paulisi say could then shout it out : "Take that you doubters!"

Anyways, if we are talking about it, whisper it, that's now both Ryan and Alistair just a SF win away.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 22nd of November 2024 10:49:24 PM



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OK, I'll whisper it .....

And all those with points coming off have basically happened, no?

i.e. Emile can't make it, surely, He has a lot of points from last year, at end Nov/early Dec, he's going to have to cover

But all the others have lost theirs already, no?





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indiana wrote:

I'd been noticing the progress this week and possibilties for the 02/12 rankings ( even got a nice wee table of the contenders' round by round points ).

But I did think it maybe best to just let it all play out and if we got to the 20 then paulisi say could then shout it out : "Take that you doubters!"

Anyways, if we are talking about it, whisper it, that's now both Ryan and Alistair just a SF win away.



-- Edited by indiana on Friday 22nd of November 2024 10:49:24 PM


Ryan took the opening set 6-3, in his semi which is playing at the moment 



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Coup Droit wrote:

OK, I'll whisper it .....

And all those with points coming off have basically happened, no?

i.e. Emile can't make it, surely, He has a lot of points from last year, at end Nov/early Dec, he's going to have to cover

But all the others have lost theirs already, no?


 Ryan makes it at least 19 and has no points to come off the rest of the year, nor do #17 or #19 and no-one in that top 19 will fall below these points scores before the end of the year.

Current 02/12 projections :

17. Aidan M : 84

18. Ryan P : 67 - 0 + 16 (so far) = 83

19. Arthur F : 82

( Live WR 500 is currently on 77 points )

Alistair can be #20 later on today even allowing for his 8 points due off at 02/12. He has a total of 24 points due off over the following 3 weeks. But that won't alter the fact that he would have made it at least 20 in the top 500 again for at least a week.

Henry S could make it for 02/12 with next week's challenger.

Emile H lost overnight so only got 1 point this week but after the 8 points due off on 02/12 he only has a total of 4 ( net 2 ) points  due off the rest of the year beyond 02/12. So he is certainly not out of contention for top 500 later on in December and has another Australia M25 entry next week ( a final would make him top 500 at 09/12 )

Also, as pailisi says Stuart P has an M15 entry at 02/12, which could take him into the top 500 at 16/12 if he reached the final ( he only has 1 ranking point due off for the rest of the year ).

Current 02/12 projections:

20. Alistair G : 75 - 8 + 8 (so far) = 75 

21. Henry S : 74  ( challenger entry next week )

22. Stuart P : 72

23. Liam B : 67 ( probably finished for the season )

24. Emile H : 72 - 8 + 1 = 65

25. George L : 60 - 1 = 59

26. Hamish S : 60 - 2 = 58

27. Max B : 54 - 0 + 3 = 57

The only 4 players from these above that have points due off beyond 02/12 until year end are Ali G who could make the top 20 then drop out again, plus Emile and/or Stuart who might come in if and when Ali drops out, plus 1 point for Hamish.



-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 23rd of November 2024 02:28:40 PM



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Awesome calculations there, Indy

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Coup Droit wrote:

Awesome calculations there, Indy


 Hopefully a bit more awesome ( well err more correct ) in my edited version.

I missed out in particular Stuart, but also George and Hamish, from my initial tables above, largely because I'd really originally just been focusing on these that could make top 500 at 02/12. 



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So Ali G has blown it?

At least for the 2nd Dec week?


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So Ali G has blown it?

At least for the 2nd Dec week?


Aye ( and drops 15 points on 9th Dec )

Henry S in the ATP Challenger 50 Manzanillo is our remaining realistic possible 20th man for 2nd Dec.



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Unfortunately no sign of Henry in the Manzanillo draw.

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And so it will go on past 2nd Dec.

A much better week for Emile in Australia M25, a final place, and 20 for 9th Dec, anyone?

Or might it now be next year at the earliest?



-- Edited by indiana on Sunday 24th of November 2024 08:10:50 PM



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Another decent run for Emile but lost in the SF in Aus so 'just' onto 72 points at 09/12.

So we will remain with 19 in the top 500 and these are all guaranteed to remain there for the rest of the year.

Current live ranked #500 is on 76 points.

GB 09/12 rankings.

20. Henry S  74
21. Stuart P  72
22. Emile H  72
23. Liam B  67

Of these, only Stuart is showing as having entries over the next few weeks, two Egypt M15s in weeks beginning 02/12 and 09/12, to count in the 16/12 and 23/12 rankings respectively. He has 1 point due off on 23/12.

Got to be a decent chance that Stuart can cobble together the required points, with the next hope that the WR 500 level drops back to allow Henry to sneak in.

A fit and functioning Liam should no doubt leap back well into the top 500 in the new year but of course top 500 players will also be dropping points.



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paulisi wrote:

Ryan Peniston will get there if he wins tomorrow and plays again next week.
Henry Searle is down to play a challenger again next week. A win would be enough.
Ali Gray has points to defend, but a victory this week would be sufficient.
Stu Parker is down for a 15k next week. If he goes deep he could make it.
Emily Hudd is still going in a rain impacted Australia for the next couple of weeks and could easily pick up enough points.

Max Basing is playing this week and has an outside chance.

If would have happened earlier as I expected Henry Searle and Ali Gray to pick up a win, but managed to lose several weeks on the run in round 1.


 Ryan's come through for you 

But I'm afraid the title of 'Eternal Optimist' still sticks biggrin

We're still one short and the 'very shortly' prediction is dragging out....

But far better to go through life as Mr. Optimist than the doom-and-gloom guy   



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