There's only 20 in the top-500 now in the men's

It's looking pretty skinny - Hamish is on 499 and may well drop out in the next few weeks

That said, there's a few hopefuls, as always, who are close to breaking through (or back through)

Ali Gray, Henry Searle are obvious candidates. Further afield, Toby Samuel is back in the entry lists, and there are others who clearly have the potential as they've been there before

But, overall, looking stable at 20, give or take one, not particularly rosy

Or will he!

Do the atp  not bring out the new rankings until the whole Shanghai tournament is completed?

Yes, with no ATP 07/10 rankings update due to Shanghai we have 19 in the top 500 at 30/09, and then, as Jon says, live 18 for 14/10 with Hamish S dropping out.

With WR 500 being on 78 points, Liam could also drop out in the following 2 weeks. He is on 84 points but has 6 points to drop on 21/10 and a further 9 points on. 28/10. Got to think though that reasonably fit and well he will get back considerably higher up the rankings.

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There are a few other men capable off breaking into the top 500 very soon.
Ali Gray, Henry Searle. Hamish Stewart, Ryan Peniston, Stuart Parker, George Loffhagen, Emil Hudd and Max Basing

I would say 20 in top 500 will happen again very shortly, 10 in the top 250 is a bit more difficult.

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 Maybe ( hopefully! ) Ryan will be back in soon and Liam, if he falls out, also back in fairly quickly. Clearly they have the ability and the history.

Otherwise, I think you are again being quite a bit over-optimistic re our men's top 500 prospects. Great if 20 does happen, but it might well not. IMO maybe not this year anyway and could be at least well into next year if next year at all.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 9th of October 2024 06:12:16 PM

indiana wrote:

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paulisi wrote:

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There are a few other men capable off breaking into the top 500 very soon.
Ali Gray, Henry Searle. Hamish Stewart, Ryan Peniston, Stuart Parker, George Loffhagen, Emil Hudd and Max Basing

I would say 20 in top 500 will happen again very shortly, 10 in the top 250 is a bit more difficult.

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 Maybe ( hopefully! ) Ryan will be back in soon and Liam, if he falls out, also back in fairly quickly. Clearly they have the ability and the history.

Otherwise, I think you are again being quite a bit over-optimistic re our men's top 500 prospects. Great if 20 does happen, but it might well not. IMO maybe not this year anyway and could be at least well into next year if next year at all.

-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 9th of October 2024 06:12:16 PM

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 My assessment is with you, Indy, I dont see it happening - each one maybe individually could stand a chance (some more than others) but as a group, it wont happen again for a while, I reckon

Been here before, as CD says! 

Absolutely - I'm not disagreeing with paulisi - there's a very good chance it'll happen

But my point was, as we saw last time, it was on the cards, it was happening, and then there was always a last minute hiccup which dragged it out for AGES

Also, saying there's a few more likely to make the top-500 is ignoring the ones about to fall out

Without steven's excellent tables (from 6 years ago ) I'm not quite sure about the others who are falling

I know Kyle has his M25 finalist points from last October coming off - not sure if that's in the live rankings

And Aidan had a Challenger QF spot last autumn

**Most likely, though, surely is Giles Hussey - he had tons of points last autumn and doesn't seem to be playing now - he must be out of the top-500 soon