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paulisi · Tennis legend

Just looking at live rankings
Men
12 in top 250
20 in top 500 and a couple close to getting in
Women
9 in top 250
12 in top 500, but at least 6 more who should get in over next few months.

indiana · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Just looking at live rankings
Men
12 in top 250
20 in top 500 and a couple close to getting in
Women
9 in top 250
12 in top 500, but at least 6 more who should get in over next few months.

Our latest total of 12 women in the top 500 is really pretty awful, with just the 3 between WR 250 and WR 500. Such as Katie S being out injured, plus Eden and Naiktha not producing and still no sign of Anna B, has left currently so little depth after our top 250 players.

It certainly should get better again over the coming months, with hopefully Katie able to climb back up the rankings and more particularly with such promising younger players that we now have in the 500s and 600s. At least 6 more into the top 500 over the next few months strikes me as a tad over optimistic, but let's hope to see a few more and for that to continue over the next year or two. It would be very welcome.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

DF wrote:
The cut off for Wimbledon 2024 was 242 ( including 2 Alts)

Feels like we should have a lot of players in US Open qualies, maybe 6 or 7 men?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
paulisi wrote:
Just looking at live rankings
Men
12 in top 250
20 in top 500 and a couple close to getting in
Women
9 in top 250
12 in top 500, but at least 6 more who should get in over next few months.
Our latest total of 12 women in the top 500 is really pretty awful, with just the 3 between WR 250 and WR 500. Such as Katie S being out injured, plus Eden and Naiktha not producing and still no sign of Anna B, has left currently so little depth after our top 250 players.
It certainly should get better again over the coming months, with hopefully Katie able to climb back up the rankings and more particularly with such promising younger players that we now have in the 500s and 600s. At least 6 more into the top 500 over the next few months strikes me as a tad over optimistic, but let's hope to see a few more and for that to continue over the next year or two. It would be very welcome.

The women's is certainly a mess at the moment

And although players like Naiktha and Eden (and Freya) have the ability to be top-500, and aren't miles off, I wouldn't want to be banking on it

In terms of the Big Three in juniors, another problem is that both Mimi and Hannah have big junior points to defend coming up so I don't know how much they will focus on juniors instead of adults

Now, Mimi is 2007 and only has a year left in juniors so may well be letting juniors drop, but Hannah - I'd expect - still has important ambitions in singles and will want to keep her juniors ranking up

Either way, their focus might be a bit split (this applies less to Mika who doesn't have significant points to defend this year)

Players like Millie R and Ella are definitely on a trajectory to be top-500 soon (and obviously Katie Swan if fit)

Others may well get it together too but it's difficult to know quite where the college girls are at, or Ranah's health, etc

Personally, I'd love it if if one of the low-profile faves suddenly got it going and jumped up a level, like Alice Gillan

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, Millie R is a good shout to make the top 500 and then to push on further.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Once the Olympics is done, presumably Andy falls off the rankings? Will that be the next rankings issued?

When he does, based on current lists we will fall to 19 in the top 500 unless someone like Henry comes through to the top 500 quickly.

Andy dropping off would leave us with 10 top 250, just reversing the result of the famous 250 v 500 battle from last year.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

JonH comes home wrote:
Once the Olympics is done, presumably Andy falls off the rankings? Will that be the next rankings issued?

When he does, based on current lists we will fall to 19 in the top 500 unless someone like Henry comes through to the top 500 quickly.

Andy dropping off would leave us with 10 top 250, just reversing the result of the famous 250 v 500 battle from last year.

I think it depends on Andy. He can ask to have his ranking withdrawn, or he can just leave it to fall out over the next 12 months.

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
JonH comes home wrote:
Once the Olympics is done, presumably Andy falls off the rankings? Will that be the next rankings issued?

When he does, based on current lists we will fall to 19 in the top 500 unless someone like Henry comes through to the top 500 quickly.

Andy dropping off would leave us with 10 top 250, just reversing the result of the famous 250 v 500 battle from last year.
I think it depends on Andy. He can ask to have his ranking withdrawn, or he can just leave it to fall out over the next 12 months.

yeah I was aware that was the rule - but I am guessing he will just say that is it rather than seeing his name floating around at 975 in the rankings, or whatever!

Lambda · Challenger qualifying

The ATP will remove a player from the rankings on receipt of the player retirement form.
The WTA will remove a player from the rankings on the earlier of the date requested on the player retirement form or the end of the calendar year in which they officially retire.

The only way to free themselves from anti-doping requirements immediately is to submit a player retirement form. I can't imagine why any player would want to unnecessarily subject themselves to the onerous whereabouts requirements so I think it's fair to say he'll submit his form and be immediately removed from the rankings.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
The ATP will remove a player from the rankings on receipt of the player retirement form.
The WTA will remove a player from the rankings on the earlier of the date requested on the player retirement form or the end of the calendar year in which they officially retire.

The only way to free themselves from anti-doping requirements immediately is to submit a player retirement form. I can't imagine why any player would want to unnecessarily subject themselves to the onerous whereabouts requirements so I think it's fair to say he'll submit his form and be immediately removed from the rankings.

Strong argument there.

paulisi · Tennis legend

We should see an improvement in the numbers when the new rankings are updated, with a few of the men knocking on the door or ahead in live rankings and some of the girls now breaking through, although Katy Dunne is close to dropping out.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

There's only 20 in the top-500 now in the men's

It's looking pretty skinny - Hamish is on 499 and may well drop out in the next few weeks

That said, there's a few hopefuls, as always, who are close to breaking through (or back through)

Ali Gray, Henry Searle are obvious candidates. Further afield, Toby Samuel is back in the entry lists, and there are others who clearly have the potential as they've been there before

But, overall, looking stable at 20, give or take one, not particularly rosy

seagull · Hall of fame

Liam will drop out this week so down to 19.

seagull · Hall of fame

Or will he!