Murray casts a rather different tone to the general brainwashing that usually accompanies the arrival of yet another tennis messiah. The Telegraph piece on the appointment of Keen's predecessor, Bob Brett, is a case in point:-
I don't know why it never seems to dawn on the governing body and others, that perennial failure might be rather more strategic or structural in nature than a problem which merely requiries a fresh face to resolve. Seeing that he seemingly can't play or coach tennis himself (I think he rides a bike), we can but hope that Peter Keen is sufficiently astute with his breadth of experience from other sports to map out the reality of what actually needs to be done.
-- Edited by EddietheEagle on Friday 13th of November 2015 09:35:20 AM
Don't know much about the guy but remember seeing him in the Irish newspapers once/a couple of time - never much impressed by him......
And, after 24 years, the results are hardly in his favour....
Good luck to the new person
A bit harsh......a lot of his work has been about growing the sport in new geographical area such as Asia, Africa and the Middle East and I think over the last 24 years he's had a lot of success in that regard.
You're probably right, The Optimist. I apologise to him. (I remember some interview/article about making Wimbledon fans love tennis all year long but that was not probably reflective of his work as a whole). So, sorry to him again.
I'm getting more and more in favour of the stance and objectives of the LTA on a day by day basis.
The more I hear the more the attitude comes across is that they were funded why wasn't my child...
I don't see this attitude in many other sports and I agree that the way to stop it is to stop all funding except for the identified elite or those talents struggling through hardship.
Athletics for example announces elite level funding and development funding annually and has an appeals process for anyone who thinks they have been treated unfairly. They have the same fixed income, which they can spend as suits them - warm weather training, overseas events. I just don't understand why the LTA keeps this secret.
If the LTA came out with a clear and concise plan then I don't think we would see all these issues
My suggestion would be the following:
Seniors - anyone who earns over $100K a season should be self funded, but have access to NTC and facilities when required anyone ranked 250-800 should have access to some travel subsidies for overseas tournaments up to a fixed amount maybe 5k anyone transitioning from juniors to seniors, college to seniors or recovering from long term injury should have access to start up funds
Juniors - anyone who makes direct entry in main draw GS, grade A or grade 1 tournaments should have costs covered by LTA for expenses and a travelling coach - some travel allowances should be made for players making grade 2 main draw - i.e 4 tournaments a year - elite players within their age group should get funded for coaching and tournament travel - U12/14/16/18 no more than 4 players per age group except in an exceptional year.
NTC - happy that the previous regime has been pulled, but in need of regular use and could be hired out for a private coaching group. (JTC are already at Northwood and Chiswick and if they are ready to expand again could set up a S London base)
I think the push to play players earlier in higher age groups is excellent and seems to be working and developing their game a bit earlier.
Domestic ITF scheduling seems to be an issue, but again is it correct to put on domestic tournaments so part time players can just turn up with little interest in playing full time on the tour. There needs to be a proper mentoring scheme to help players transition on the tour - I've heard this issue several times with Izzy Wallace using this as a reason for defecting back to Aus.
We need a proper high quantity base of players from minis to vets playing regularly. So you need proper set ups, sufficient tournaments and sufficient facilities to play all year round(stop this mentality about tennis only played from May to August) . For instance if you live in Inverness you have to travel over 100 miles to find an indoor court. The other thing we are missing is parks tennis and decent high level coaching at a cheaper cost to reduce the high cost levels and make it more accessible to all.
The other main issue to address is the conflict of interest within the tennis in the UK between the LTA, the counties and the private clubs (this is a big problem across all sports)
A lot of this is already being addressed, but it will take a long time for things to kick in and people to forget about the past.
Agree with the general thrust of what you say Paulsi, although might not agree with the details of every suggestion.
Earlier today I put a long post on the US college thread explaining why so many families feel hard done by when it comes to junior funding. The bulk of the post probably belongs in a thread like this but I put it there as it was the letter to The Telegraph from Sophie D's grandmother which prompted me to write it.
I'm an outsider, looking in. You clearly have more insight and it's good to get the discussion going.
I agree with your post on the other thread. Once you are in the circle, you were fine. It's getting into the circle, which was a bit of a clique that was the problem.
For those players transitioning from Juniors to Seniors, I still think that the performance bonus scheme was an excellent idea as it rewarded results and did not discriminate between the "in-crowd" and those outside that "inner circle". In the grand scheme of things, it cost the LTA peanuts.
I really hope the LTA look at re-instigating that, or something similar.
For those players transitioning from Juniors to Seniors, I still think that the performance bonus scheme was an excellent idea as it rewarded results and did not discriminate between the "in-crowd" and those outside that "inner circle". In the grand scheme of things, it cost the LTA peanuts.
I really hope the LTA look at re-instigating that, or something similar.
My understanding, flawed as it may be, was that the performance bonus scheme was only open to those not receiving LTA funding. I.E. It excluded the in-crowd and those who might go to college schemes, which is most of them.
What might be good is a bit of transparency, given that there is more in the public domain about GCHQ than the LTA.
A list of goals and how they are measured. A set of accounts showing who gets the money and why. How performance is measured.
It looks like they have half a plan to develop grass roots - I wonder if they have bought the rackets yet or hired any coaches or even found a vehicle to take the cup round....
I would pi.. all over the lot of them at the LTA none of them are star quality at best they are mediocre but they don't want a kid from the ghetto they want jobs for the Lower middle class that have been born with a golden spoon in their mouths . And to be honest thats the problem .
I am successful why because I was very poor , working class but born in a country of opportunity in a deprived area where I believed the only way was up !
the next big British player's parents will be digging roads but a volunteer in British tennis will phone up Gary Lewis and say found that ghetto kid they are hungry , single minded like you gary that Hungary ghetto kid that you been looking for !
-- Edited by A1 tennis academy on Wednesday 23rd of December 2015 09:47:58 PM