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Bob in Spain wrote:

Great to see Liam and Evo adding point this week. Evo is looking almost home and dry although another win or two would make it more comfortable. Liam definitely needs a couple more wins, preferably one more this week (at least) as a SF spot would take him to 180 and almost there.


Yes, it's good to see both Evo and Liam winning.

Evo, having looked maybe almost there with no points to defend has actually been a bit on the drift in ranking terms in recent weeks and the points target rather annoyingly increasing lately. On Monday his 187 points had him at WR 271 and looking at wolf's Australian entry stats, most particularly last year, his position was looking dodgy and in need of insurance. So his R1 win here and any more this week or upcoming weeks are most welcome.

Liam has got rid of all his points drops and like a released man it's great to see him already get these two wins this week to take him to 151 + 15 = 166 points.

With Kyle taking steps to negate his final points defense ( 48 points this week ) his situation could soon look much better again for main draw entry.

James and Brydan look the certs for the qualifying draw, we now want Evo and Liam in too and Kyle out into the main draw.

Be interesting to see how it all looks this coming Monday with the most movement for a good while. 



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 12th of November 2015 08:10:32 PM

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OK, couldn't resist looking further right now after Evo's R2 win.

187 + 15 takes him to 202 points, on the current rankings list equivalent to WR 253. Looking good

One more win this week would surely really seal the deal so then no need to beat Liam in any SF meeting  



-- Edited by indiana on Thursday 12th of November 2015 09:13:46 PM

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Great week as far as the Aussie Open goes with Kyle and Dan's titles seeing them almost certain to make the MD and into qualifying respectively.

All of the following now have no further points to come off by the relevant 07/12 ( main draw entry date ) and 21/12 ( qualifying date ) except for Brydan and Dan Cox.

Kyle : now WR 99 on 560 points ( WR 104 is not that far behind on 545 points, but it seems very unlikely enough guys will pass him by 07/12 to be a problem and he could add more points himself )

James : WR 155 on 365 points and Brydan : WR 177 on 293 points ( 272 'banked' ) have long been very safely into qualifying without threatening main draw entry.

Dan E : WR 185 on 267 points, now very safely into qualifying.

As indicators, WR 250 is on 205 points and WR 260 on 196 points, so ...

Liam WR 296 on 166 has certainly moved closer to contention, but still needs another really big week or two.

Time steadily running out ( but not impossible ) for :

Alex : WR 331 on 143 points
Dan C : WR 335 on 139 points ( 121 'banked' )
Josh : WR 359 on 129 points



-- Edited by indiana on Monday 16th of November 2015 01:13:05 PM

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With Andy and Aljaz in the main draw and James, Evo and Brydan in the qualifying draw, remaining interest is really in :

Kyle - main draw :
In spite of adding 8 points last week he has dropped one place to WR 100. Over the next two weeks that matter ( until the rankings of 07/12 ) he has nothing to drop and still looks pretty good for the approximate necessary WR 104. There are though a lot of players not too far behind, some competing this week. A live Davis Cup rubber win and absolutely sorted !

Liam - qualifying draw :
Relevant rankings date here is 21/12. Liam, however is WR 299 on 166 points, well short of WR 250 / 260, currently 206 / 198 points. And with withdrawals from Israel futures he now appears to have nothing on his schedule. So unless say going to try a challenger or two somewhere he won't be at the Aussie Open.

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With this I see the last week of challengers, safe to say now I am afraid that Liam won't make the Aussie Open qualifiers.

We shall have three make qualifying - James, Evo and Brydan.

Kyle still hopefully will be OK for the MD. As of now he is still WR 100 though up to four players could in theory overtake him this week.

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I'm not sure how Kyle's chances will be affected over the remaining weeks prior to the entry list date, but I think that only three players could pass Kyle this week, as Sela and Vanni are in the same quarter and both require SF points to overtake Kyle.

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Technically Bemelmans could overtake with one Davis Cup win and Coppejans with two, but obviously it is unlikely they will play never mind win.

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BeefyDeedz wrote:

I'm not sure how Kyle's chances will be affected over the remaining weeks prior to the entry list date, but I think that only three players could pass Kyle this week, as Sela and Vanni are in the same quarter and both require SF points to overtake Kyle.


 

I was actually allowing for a maximum of one from Sela and Vanni. The four I was counting were Basilashvili, Dodig and Sela or Vanni from the Andria Challenger and Albot from the Sao Paulo Challenger Tour Finals if he wins that title.

( I do see that the live-tennis.eu rankings aren't currently showing Sao Paulo, starting tomorrow ) 



-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 24th of November 2015 11:32:55 PM

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On the note of the challenger finals, I've always wondered how the field is decided (other than the WC, which is once again Clezar). Anyone able to shed some light on that for me?

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Kyle (if selected) will just have to beat Goffin and all will be sorted

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thejester wrote:

On the note of the challenger finals, I've always wondered how the field is decided (other than the WC, which is once again Clezar). Anyone able to shed some light on that for me?


 most points in challengers up to a cut off date - wk 45?. What I don't understand is why it is normally on clay.



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Couldn't find a list yet of anyone entering the Aussie Open on a PR. Guess this could make the cut off higher than 104.

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Jeff Stelling wrote:

Couldn't find a list yet of anyone entering the Aussie Open on a PR. Guess this could make the cut off higher than 104.


Good stuff. It is unlikely that all four possibles will push Kyle down to WR 104 this week. And then next week, the final week that matters, has no challengers so I can't see that he can be overtaken then.

Just trying to introduce some minor drama  



-- Edited by indiana on Wednesday 25th of November 2015 01:32:40 PM

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paulisi wrote:
thejester wrote:

On the note of the challenger finals, I've always wondered how the field is decided (other than the WC, which is once again Clezar). Anyone able to shed some light on that for me?


 most points in challengers up to a cut off date - wk 45?. What I don't understand is why it is normally on clay.


Thanks for that paulisi, assumed it was something along those lines but good to know. I see it's been going since 2011, have any Brits been involved previously?



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Basilashvili fell by the wayside yesterday so down to a maximum of 3 places Kyle can drop from his current WR 100.

Edit : actually theoretically Kyle could still could drop 4 places to WR104 if Ruben Bemelmans wins a live Davis Cup Final rubber, though he's thought only likely to have the pleasure of playing singles vs Andy ( with Darcis in reserve ).



-- Edited by indiana on Saturday 28th of November 2015 07:59:37 AM

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