Davis Cup 2016 World Group Round 1 GB v Japan - 4th-6th March - NIA, Birmingham

paulisi · Tennis legend

RE: Davis Cup 2016 World Group Round 1 GB v Japan - 4th-6th March - NIA, Birmingham

indiana · Tennis legend

Rustie wrote:
Hopefully Evo gets to play in front of his home crowd.

Would be great fir him, but I would imagine Kyle is very much in pole position just now

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

Has the pick been made yet?

paulsmay · Improver

So, the squad against Japan is Andy,Jamie,Kyle,Evo and Dom. No surprises there.

-- Edited by paulsmay on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:13:38 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

5 man squad announced on the LTA site : Andy, Kyle, Evo, Jamie and Dom - to probably noone's great surprise.

I am that echo

-- Edited by indiana on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:09:03 PM

wolf · Tennis legend

Japan's team is Kei Nishikori WR 6, Taro Daniel WR 87, Yoshihito Nishioka WR 126 and Yasutaka Uchiyama WR 238.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

paulsmay wrote:
So, the squad against Japan is Andy,Jamie,Kyle,Evo and Dom. No surprises there.

-- Edited by paulsmay on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:13:38 PM

Very much as expected. But there is one change I would love to see this year. I would very much like to see the Doubles players, play the doubles. I understood and supported the reasoning behind playing Andy in the doubles last year. He was on a mission to win us the DC. This year, I think it is apparent that he is unlikely to play much beyond this first round tie, (maybe I'm wrong on that) so it would be beneficial to see other members of the squad step to the fore. Let's be honest, a partnership of Jamie/Dom would start as strong favourites in the doubles anyway.

Rustie · Junior player

Could be a very close encounter. Nishikori is a more difficult opponent than any Andy played last year. Nishioka has had some strong results recently and is an obvious talent.

paulisi · Tennis legend

It is actually a real tough encounter. They have a reasonable second singles player and Murray v Nishikori is no gimme.

We should win the doubles, which might be the crunch match.

indiana · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
paulsmay wrote:
So, the squad against Japan is Andy,Jamie,Kyle,Evo and Dom. No surprises there.

-- Edited by paulsmay on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:13:38 PM
Very much as expected. But there is one change I would love to see this year. I would very much like to see the Doubles players, play the doubles. I understood and supported the reasoning behind playing Andy in the doubles last year. He was on a mission to win us the DC. This year, I think it is apparent that he is unlikely to play much beyond this first round tie, (maybe I'm wrong on that) so it would be beneficial to see other members of the squad step to the fore. Let's be honest, a partnership of Jamie/Dom would start as strong favourites in the doubles anyway.

I'd go Andy and Jamie ( unless we're up 2-0 ), no messing, while accepting that Jamie and Dom isn't exactly messing and would still be favourites. Win this tie first and foremost ( and again I would accept there is an argument for resting Andy from the doubles just in that context )

Actually, I think that it's quite likely that that option won't be there anyway in the final team with Dom being left out.

philwrig · Hall of fame

Bob in Spain wrote:
paulsmay wrote:
So, the squad against Japan is Andy,Jamie,Kyle,Evo and Dom. No surprises there.

-- Edited by paulsmay on Tuesday 23rd of February 2016 02:13:38 PM
Very much as expected. But there is one change I would love to see this year. I would very much like to see the Doubles players, play the doubles. I understood and supported the reasoning behind playing Andy in the doubles last year. He was on a mission to win us the DC. This year, I think it is apparent that he is unlikely to play much beyond this first round tie, (maybe I'm wrong on that) so it would be beneficial to see other members of the squad step to the fore. Let's be honest, a partnership of Jamie/Dom would start as strong favourites in the doubles anyway.

I'm pretty certain Andy's only going to play this tie, my only issue would be is Jamie/Dom a good partnership, if it is I would 100% agree. I know who will be making the final decision though ;)

Vandenburg · Futures level

How many points could Evo and Edmund get for winning a live condom?

I seem to remember it is similar to that of a challanger final appearance?? I'm sure someone said you can get points for losing too??

indiana · Tennis legend

Vandenburg wrote:
How many points could Evo and Edmund get for winning a live condom?

I seem to remember it is similar to that of a challanger final appearance?? I'm sure someone said you can get points for losing too??

40 points for a live rubber win ( yes, not far short of the 48 for a 50K challenger runner up ).

Or indeed 10 points if you compete in at least one live rubber without a win "for participation".

Problemo re the 40 points of course is that the GB #2 will play the Japan #1 ( presumably Nishikori ) on Day 1 and we would hope that it will be all over before the final rubber would be due.

indiana · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Vandenburg wrote:
How many points could Evo and Edmund get for winning a live condom?

I seem to remember it is similar to that of a challanger final appearance?? I'm sure someone said you can get points for losing too??

40 points for a live rubber win ( yes, not far short of the 48 for a 50K challenger runner up ).
Or indeed 10 points if you compete in at least one live rubber without a win "for participation".
Problemo re the 40 points of course is that the GB #2 will play the Japan #1 ( presumably Nishikori ) on Day 1 and we would hope that it will be all over before the final rubber would be due.

Err, to correct myself, apparently none any more.

According to the ATP site ranking info "beginning in 2016 no points will be awarded for Davis Cup ties" ( the 2015 Davis Cup points continue to remain with players until their 52 week anniversary ).

That all seems to have happened rather quietly.

Spectator · All-time great

In a way, I think that's fairer. It always did seem a bit harsh that people who were themselves quite good but on teams where they were the only person and hence couldn't get beyond some obscure group (eg Marcos Baghdatis ... he currently a finalist in Dubai, yet!) got no points for playing Davis Cup, while others got points for playing in the World Group because their overall team was better. Does make it more of a sacrifice for the players, though. Not that it mattered much for people at the very top - but it did make a difference for the lower ATP/Challenger-level members of teams.