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cwej wrote:

And as to not traveling abroad because it costs too much, well that's just what Gilles Simon was talking about when he said you have to invest in yourself. It's just like students going to uni: fees and living adds up to a debt - that's your investment in your future (and even if politically you believe fees should be free, it's a lost opportunity of earning potential, which again is an investment in yourself, because you think the rewards will be worth it, not to mention the state's investment in you).

 

 What a ludicrously middle class post. The LTA are working hard to try and make tennis be a more accessible sport. Comments like this are just nonsense for the majority of the country who have families who cannot support them to afford this kind of thing most people just don't have that capital in the first place. The only way they could do it is with LTA funding.

Anyway, I don't mean to cause an argument. I just find this post a little absurd.

Cwej, I fully understand your point. However, there is no denying that tennis is a very expensive sport LTA funding or not. A lot of sacrifices have to be made to get anywhere near a decent professional level. It's just a fact of life. The LTA cannot fund everyone even if they try. You have to cut your cloth according to size unfortunately. To develop, you must travel, to travel, you must have the means one way or another either LTA funding - if spotted subjectively, sponsorship - if sponsor objectively feels you have what it takes - or family (probably middle class with lots of sacrifice).

 



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I see your point - but it helps to be able to start out and prove yourself in tournaments in your home country, get yourself on the ranking ladder, and then guarantee yourself some money coming in for other tournaments when you start travelling. My main point is - get more 10k tournaments in the UK. Are they pretty much at an all-time low?



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cwej wrote:

And as to not traveling abroad because it costs too much, well that's just what Gilles Simon was talking about when he said you have to invest in yourself. It's just like students going to uni: fees and living adds up to a debt - that's your investment in your future (and even if politically you believe fees should be free, it's a lost opportunity of earning potential, which again is an investment in yourself, because you think the rewards will be worth it, not to mention the state's investment in you).

 

 What a ludicrously middle class post. The LTA are working hard to try and make tennis be a more accessible sport. Comments like this are just nonsense for the majority of the country who have families who cannot support them to afford this kind of thing most people just don't have that capital in the first place. The only way they could do it is with LTA funding.

Anyway, I don't mean to cause an argument. I just find this post a little absurd.

 

I understand your view. And the frustration. But, firstly, I don't actually think the LTA are working hard to make tennis a more accessible sport - I think they are working hard to make certain leisure facilities of tennis more widely available (to boost participation numbers, probably). But the actual sport of tennis is as narrow as it was 20 years ago, in my opinion.

The LTA fund hardly anybody. Or the amounts we are talking about at age 13, say, are so small as to make hardly any difference. It is an expensive sport. There's no escape from it. And, secondly, it is not middle class to say that players have to invest in themselves. And not , necessarily, wrong (although I think the LTA has got the balance wrong). There is a cut-off line somewhere. The LTA have drawn it incredibly high. Their choice. And probably their (and our) loss.

In fact, as said before, the LTA should (IMHO) invest in and fund the sport of tennis, not so much individual players. (Boosting participation numbers will help with this, admittedly). But it's no different from aspiring artists, or musicians, or dancers or whatever. It's a difficult pyramid to climb. And all have to make sacrifices. Players know that when they set out. Just as aspiring musicians do.  



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cwej wrote:

I see your point - but it helps to be able to start out and prove yourself in tournaments in your home country, get yourself on the ranking ladder, and then guarantee yourself some money coming in for other tournaments when you start travelling. My main point is - get more 10k tournaments in the UK. Are they pretty much at an all-time low?

 

i agree that there seems to have been a real dearth of 10ks.

Quite a few 25s and 50s and hardly any 10s.

Even though the profile of women's pro tennis is far more suited to 10s.

Which definitely is strange.



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Lisa 3-6 6-2 *4-5 Freya
Fran 6-0 2-6 4-3* Manisha

Harriet Dart defeated Lucy Brown 6-3 7-6(5)

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Whybourn-Christie and Stephenson-Foster are really close I kinda want all four of them to go through!

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Oh my, Lisa vs Freya into final set TB

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Poor Lisa, served for it but served up two doubles in the breaker and lost it 7-1.

Bummer, but most important thing is that her body held up in a long three setter, and hopefully she feels ok and not too sore afterwards.

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Oh my, Lisa vs Freya into final set TB

 

... which Freya romps through and wins  6-3 2-6 7-6 (1)



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pleased for Freya I think she is a good prospect she could win this week. Glad Lisa is back she had potential top 200 hope she gets back there

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Ah, hadn't caught the DFs in the TB.

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I hadn't clocked the DFs in the TB either. All in all a positive couple of days for Lisa. Coming through tight matches like that must be especially difficult when you're just coming back into competitive action.

The most important thing is that the shoulder holds up well.

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Nice to see 4 juniors in the quart-finals, including 2 'born-in-1999's

(Not that the others are old ladies, of course ! At age 19, 20, 21 and 24 . . . )

Jodie and Georgina are down to play a G2 juniors on clay next week. (And various other ones after that, of course).

Emily Arbuthnott is definitely giving juniors one last swing with the US/Canadian late summer tour of G1s and the US Open.

Freya seems to have given up on juniors and is not down for any more.

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Well done to Freya, Jodie, Ms Arbuthnott and Georgina not necessarily in that order. All equal well dones



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R2: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) 1 342 def APPLETON, Emily (GBR) WC UNR 6-2 6-2
R2: CHRISTIE, Freya (GBR) 8 805 def WHYBOURN, Lisa (GBR) UNR 6-3 2-6 7-6(1)
R2: PARISH, Helen (GBR) UNR def MIYAZAKI, Yuriko Lily (JPN) 1232 7-5 6-3
R2: AXON, Georgina (GBR) WC UNR def ASKEW, Sarah Beth (GBR) 781 4-6 6-2 6-3
R1: STEPHENSON, Francesca (GBR) 5 618 def FOSTER, Manisha (GBR) 937 6-0 2-6 6-4
R2: ARBUTHNOTT, Emily (GBR) 1088 def ASGHAR, Jasmine Amber (GBR) 1093 6-1 6-2
R2: BURRAGE, Jodie Anna (GBR) WC UNR def GRIFFITHS, Ellie-Rose (GBR) Q UNR 6-1 6-1
R2: DART, Harriet (GBR) 2 345 def BROWN, Lucy (GBR) 827 6-3 7-6(5)

QF: DUNNE, Katy (GBR) 1 342 v CHRISTIE, Freya (GBR) 8 805
QF: PARISH, Helen (GBR) UNR v AXON, Georgina (GBR) WC UNR
QF: STEPHENSON, Francesca (GBR) 5 618 v ARBUTHNOTT, Emily (GBR) 1088
QF: BURRAGE, Jodie Anna (GBR) WC UNR v DART, Harriet (GBR) 2 345

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