Davis Cup 2015 - World Group Semi-Final - 18th-20th September

paulisi · Tennis legend

RE: Davis Cup 2015 - World Group Semi-Final - 18th-20th September

thejester · Satellite level

Well it's a shame Dan can't get any points this week (and may not anyway of course) but at least he'll then be eligible for full points in the final (totally not getting ahead of myself haha!)

thejester · Satellite level

paulisi wrote:
I hope there is a little more to the Evo trip to Turkey story than that, otherwise I have a feeling we may have the old Evo back again....

Perhaps since they wouldn't give him a later start he didn't feel the turnaround from travel to playing would be sufficient? Dan does rather have a unique way of expressing himself

Rustie · Junior player

Why would it not be possible to play a Davis Cup match at Wimbledon in November?

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
I hope there is a little more to the Evo trip to Turkey story than that, otherwise I have a feeling we may have the old Evo back again....

Sounds perfectly believable to me....

I don't think the 'old' Dan has gone - it's just a question of balance as to how much of one and how much of the other one gets.

NB Thought Andy played great. But if I were the Aussie captain, I wouldn't be too happy with Kokki. The only sensible thing I think John Lloyd said the whole match was something along the lines of Kokkinakis has to stop feeling sorry for himself.

bigboyjumbo · Lower Club Player

A1 tennis academy wrote:
Big decision by Leon to bring in Evo - let's hope he's right again he's done a very good job as captain so far except failing to get marcus Willis to train with his first choice doubles partners but that's the mindset of a businessman like me who always has a eye on the short term goals within a long term strategy

Why on earth would they get them to train with willis?

paulisi · Tennis legend

Belgium are well ahead in their opening rubber - anyone fancy at trip across the channel?(or am I getting too optimistic)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
RJA wrote:
Further to the above post. Quoting from the ATP rulebook

9.0.4 (c) (3)

If a player is a late substitution to the team and was released from another tournament that same week, he will not be eligible to earn points for that Davis Cup tie. A player only has the opportunity to earn points in one event per week.

Had Evo withdrawn from Istanbul last week when he was still on the alternate list he would have been okay.
He's quoted in an article by Barry Flatman in today's Times, under the heading "Prodigal son returns to write last chapter", as follows:
There has even been a tinge of irony connected with Evans's recall to the Davis Cup team this week because he was scheduled to be playing in a Challenger event in Istanbul. "My flights were booked and paid for and then I decided on the Monday morning I wasn't going," he said.
"I had to be up early in the morning on Monday to get to Luton Airport, which was a bit of a jaunt, and so I just decided against it because it was a bit of a rush. They wouldn't give me a late start."
Typical Evo! Not sure about his use of the word "jaunt", either! Did he mean "hike"?

Should have included the final paragraph, which adds a little more perspective:

Istanbul's loss was Britain's gain because Kyle Edmund's fall in practice caused Smith once more to turn to British tennis's prodigal son. "I was at my sister's and woke up on Tuesday and I'd missed a call and a message from Leon," Evans said. "I got on the next flight and I was here."

That to me suggests that his withdrawal from Instant-bul (as it was known among colleagues at a previous job wink ) & his DC call-up are not in fact linked.

GBJ · Club Coach

Ooh - Eco not singing the anthem - clearly failing to disguise his republican view ;)

indiana · Tennis legend

bigboyjumbo wrote:
A1 tennis academy wrote:
Big decision by Leon to bring in Evo - let's hope he's right again he's done a very good job as captain so far except failing to get marcus Willis to train with his first choice doubles partners but that's the mindset of a businessman like me who always has a eye on the short term goals within a long term strategy
Why on earth would they get them to train with willis?

Because, so I have heard, I believe a few times, that Marcus Willis is that potential Davis Cup doubles player and certainly top 100 potential player that for one reason or another has never risen above doubles WR 221 by now his mid 20s.

For maybe some connected reasons or another he has not really played that many tournaments above futures level. Awesome win / loss record in futures doubles matches though

paulisi · Tennis legend

Rustie wrote:
Why would it not be possible to play a Davis Cup match at Wimbledon in November?

Well not this year as if we win we are likely to be away in Belgium.

There is no reason not to with the roof and air con.

O2 will be the most likely venue as it has the biggest capacity.

paulisi · Tennis legend

Stircrazy wrote:
Stircrazy wrote:
RJA wrote:
Further to the above post. Quoting from the ATP rulebook

9.0.4 (c) (3)

If a player is a late substitution to the team and was released from another tournament that same week, he will not be eligible to earn points for that Davis Cup tie. A player only has the opportunity to earn points in one event per week.

Had Evo withdrawn from Istanbul last week when he was still on the alternate list he would have been okay.
He's quoted in an article by Barry Flatman in today's Times, under the heading "Prodigal son returns to write last chapter", as follows:
There has even been a tinge of irony connected with Evans's recall to the Davis Cup team this week because he was scheduled to be playing in a Challenger event in Istanbul. "My flights were booked and paid for and then I decided on the Monday morning I wasn't going," he said.
"I had to be up early in the morning on Monday to get to Luton Airport, which was a bit of a jaunt, and so I just decided against it because it was a bit of a rush. They wouldn't give me a late start."
Typical Evo! Not sure about his use of the word "jaunt", either! Did he mean "hike"?
Should have included the final paragraph, which adds a little more perspective:
Istanbul's loss was Britain's gain because Kyle Edmund's fall in practice caused Smith once more to turn to British tennis's prodigal son. "I was at my sister's and woke up on Tuesday and I'd missed a call and a message from Leon," Evans said. "I got on the next flight and I was here."
That to me suggests that his withdrawal from Instant-bul (as it was known among colleagues at a previous job ) & his DC call-up are not in fact linked.

That makes it even worse.....

indiana · Tennis legend

So this ( possible ) wonderful stategy of bringing in Evo was greatly helped in his being much more available to travel to Glasgow by him having not shifed himself to the airport to then be in Turkey.

It gets better or worse !

airsmashers · County player

Everyone in the Istanbul thread was saying it was a good idea to pull out due to the short turnaround and the tough draw.

indiana · Tennis legend

Not criticising Evo. Just saying it was pure luck though re the Davis Cup that he wasn't in Turkey.