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indiana wrote:

How did the points play out, particularly the two from *6-3 that evidenced an "epic choke" ?


As far as I remember, it was more a case of some solid rally tennis from both players culminating in two errors from Dan (admittedly under pressure from Novikov's hard-hitting forehands) and then a big serve at 6-5* to level things up - which was the stage at which Dan began to beat himself.



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Epic choke from Evo, *6-3 in the second set TB, lost it 6-8!


 That is the least 'epic' 'choke' I've ever seen. Players often lose TB's from winning positions on serve - it's part of the TB's nature. 


 Behave, 6-3 up on serve, on grass, is a rare position to lose from. 


 Behave?

You must not see a lot of tennis, or perhaps you're just a bit sensationalist if you believe losing a tie-break from 6-3 up is an 'epic choke'. Not really sure what the grass factor has to do it with (was it even on grass? It may well have been indoors by the sounds of it) given it was a tie-break situation. Not like he served for the match on multiple occasions. It's very possible to lose 3-5 points in quick succession without 'choking'. Christ almighty.



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TMH wrote:
murray_2k9 wrote:
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Epic choke from Evo, *6-3 in the second set TB, lost it 6-8!


 That is the least 'epic' 'choke' I've ever seen. Players often lose TB's from winning positions on serve - it's part of the TB's nature. 


 Behave, 6-3 up on serve, on grass, is a rare position to lose from. 


 Behave?

You must not see a lot of tennis, or perhaps you're just a bit sensationalist if you believe losing a tie-break from 6-3 up is an 'epic choke'. Not really sure what the grass factor has to do it with (was it even on grass? It may well have been indoors by the sounds of it) given it was a tie-break situation. Not like he served for the match on multiple occasions. It's very possible to lose 3-5 points in quick succession without 'choking'. Christ almighty.


 The game, like all of yesterday's matches, was played on an indoor hard court.



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Apart from losing a set from *6-3 in a TB, players hardly ever lose the lead in games and indeed lose games from *40-0 up, let alone *40-15 ( probably more relevantly since two serves to come for it ). Oh wait, they do often, and on grass and fast hard too, yes more serve friendly surfaces.

Rather than that I'd focus on Brad's report that Evo basically chucked it - unfortunately nothing new for him. Worse if this actually began while still in the TB, having been pulled back to 6-6*.

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At 6-6*, there were more than just a few expletives.

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indiana wrote:

Apart from losing a set from *6-3 in a TB, players hardly ever lose the lead in games and indeed lose games from *40-0 up, let alone *40-15 ( probably more relevantly since two serves to come for it ). Oh wait, they do often, and on grass and fast hard too, yes more serve friendly surfaces.

Rather than that I'd focus on Brad's report that Evo basically chucked it - unfortunately nothing new for him. Worse if this actually began while still in the TB, having been pulled back to 6-6*.


I've read Brad's report and I can see "some solid rally tennis from both players culminating in two errors from Dan (admittedly under pressure from Novikov's hard-hitting forehands) and then a big serve at 6-5* to level things up" Brad then mentions "at which Dan began to beat himself", but I don't read this as Dan chucking the game. I took Dan beating himself up as him admonishing himself, maybe trying to energise himself the way so many players do.



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I was referring back to Brad's match report on page 2 when he said that Evo "basically chucked it".

I had assumed that this was just in the final set, but above he said that 6-6* in the TB "was the stage at which Dan began to beat himself", so I connected things as Brad meaning essentially the stage from which Evo had chucked the match.

I am sure that Brad himself could clarify.

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Evo essentially lost interest after losing the tiebreak. At 6-6* in the breaker he was chastising himself (I think, although it could have been frustration at an external factor - anything from the echo of several games being played inside a huge sports hall, the adorable yet occasionally incompetent ball boys and girls, some shaky line calls, etc.) and from my point of view, the game was lost after he went from 6-3 to 6-6 in the breaker. I could just tell the sense of confidence and urgency he had played with for the majority of the first two sets had been lost.

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Alex is 3-3 in the second, having lost the first 4-6

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Another decent performance from Alex, but he goes down 6-4 7-6(5)

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The rout is complete. Ricey lost 5 and 4 cry



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Both fought very hard, and can be proud of their performances.

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Luke is battling hard against McGee, not quite making enough balls at the moment and is a double break down 2-5*



-- Edited by Jaffa on Monday 15th of June 2015 12:28:29 PM

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Lost the 1st set 6-2.

But big cheer from the crowd (Phil and Paulisi no doubt) as Luke breaks back for *3-3 in the 2nd.

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Luke lost 6-2, 7-6(6)

He had set point at *6-5 in the tie break.

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