Weeks 21-22 - French Open - Roland Garros Men's Main Draw (Clay)

philwrig · Hall of fame

RE: Weeks 21-22 - French Open - Roland Garros Men's Main Draw (Clay)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
It has to be the right call, these abdominal injuries can be problematical, and if he isn't 100% he wouldn't have been competitive tomorrow, and would have only exacerbated the injury putting his whole grass season in doubt. Still bloody annoying though !

There's an article in today's Times under the heading "Stomach tear forces Edmund" to pull out of second-round tie". Apparently, Leon Smith spent the day with him & is quoted as saying:

Kyle felt something after his qualifying matches and since the match against Robert it has got worse. He has muscle damage in his stomach.

The advice we had was that, if he went on court for even a set, it could damage it further and put him out for six, seven or eight weeks. He played four fantastic matches here. He will quite possibly be in the top 100 when the next rankings come out. Why risk ruining your summer? There was no point in endangering the entire grass court season.

I'd say more disappointing than annoying... hmm

Jan · Hall of fame

Agreed - no point in risking longer-term damage, however disappointing it is.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

Need Almagro to win a set here against Nadal if he does Andy won't be on til 5pm French time. And that's when I can get in. With tomic kokkiakis going to 5 sets Hev won't be on til prob 530 French time so should be ideal timing for me if I don't get to see Andy. Come on Almagro though!

RJA · Hall of fame

philwrig wrote:
It has to be the right call, these abdominal injuries can be problematical, and if he isn't 100% he wouldn't have been competitive tomorrow, and would have only exacerbated the injury putting his whole grass season in doubt. Still bloody annoying though !

Furthermore I honestly don't think he would have been that competitive against Kyrgios. The Aussie is looking in good form at the moment and is very tough to break, especially on clay. With Kyle normally dropping serve at least once a set I would have been surprised if he had took a set. The best I was expecting was a score of something like 6-4, 6-4, 6-4; a respectable looking score but a routine win for his opponent.

Obviously it is still disappointing that he had missed out on playing but there was nothing about the match that could have warranted taking a risk. If had been an opportunity to play a fairly winnable match or to play against someone like Roger Federer then he might have been tempted to gamble.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

RJA wrote:
philwrig wrote:
It has to be the right call, these abdominal injuries can be problematical, and if he isn't 100% he wouldn't have been competitive tomorrow, and would have only exacerbated the injury putting his whole grass season in doubt. Still bloody annoying though !
Furthermore I honestly don't think he would have been that competitive against Kyrgios. The Aussie is looking in good form at the moment and is very tough to break, especially on clay. [...]

Except that there might just have been a glimmer of hope for Kyle, had he been 100% fit: the Barry Flatman (anyone happen to know where Neil Harman is these days?) article from which I quoted above also notes the following:

Kyrgios has required treatment on the elbow injury that forced him to quit the Open de Nice Côte d'Azur last week. "I've been doing a lot of treatment," the world No 30 said, "hours and hours a day".

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Simply because I find it interesting at this stage of each Grand Slam:

Of the last 16 in the mens:

1 Japanese,
1 American
1 Russian,
1 Czech,
1 Croat,
1 Serb,
1 Brit,
2 Swiss,
2 Spain,
5 French

The average age is 28.5 years old

6 out of 16 are age 30 or above

1 is under the age of 25

3 players are unseeded.

The range goes from age 22 to 33.

emma · Strong Club Player

Coup Droit wrote:
Simply because I find it interesting at this stage of each Grand Slam:

Of the last 16 in the mens:

1 Japanese,
1 American
1 Russian,
1 Czech,
1 Croat,
1 Serb,
1 Brit,
2 Swiss,
2 Spain,
5 French

The average age is 28.5 years old

6 out of 16 are age 30 or above

1 is under the age of 25

3 players are unseeded.

The range goes from age 22 to 33.

yes, I like these kind of stats too :)

also, 14 of 16 are European

Spectator · All-time great

What's striking, given their fondness for clay, is the complete absence of Latin Americans.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

The average age will be even higher top 16 in general in the next couple of months and a lot have birthdays coming up.

Bob in Brazil · Improver

Spectator wrote:
What's striking, given their fondness for clay, is the complete absence of Latin Americans.

Yes. It very sad. We have very much bad luck this year and airplane lag make our players tired.

indiana · Tennis legend

In R4 we will have the 5 Frenchmen vs the top 4 seeds plus (8) Wawrinka.

Could be fun.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Got to mention the Roland Garros Grand Slam title for Brit, Gordon Reid, in the Men's wheelchair doubles.

Spectator · All-time great

Well spotted for Mr Reid's victory, CD, but didn't Jordanne Whiley+ win the calendar GS last year in doubles?

First RG title for a British man ...

vohor · Grand Slam Champion

Wow; stunning stuff from Wawrinka; Stan's the Man indeed
Never seen Nole look so lost before; with his bubble burst I'm thinking Wimbledon now looking better for Andy :)