Week 20 French Open Qualifying

RJA · Hall of fame

RE: Week 20 French Open Qualifying

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

What a win! Can't argue with that, well done Kyle.

philwrig · Hall of fame

I can see your point RJA, I like no TB's in qualifying in general, but was prepared to offer those who felt that not having them was absurd a compromise.

RJA · Hall of fame

philwrig wrote:
Seriously impressive by Kyle, losing only 3 games against a wily old vet with pedigree, is impressive in anyones book.

Certainly an impressive win but while Hanescu is a veteran I don't think the word "wily" is a good description of him. I would suspect that part of why Kyle won this so convincingly is that Hanescu probably tried to play the match on his terms without giving too much thought to what his opponent was doing. When people play like that against Kyle he can destroy them with his forehand. Where he struggles is against smart players who take advantage of his poor movement by repeatedly putting the ball in awkward positions.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

RJA wrote:
philwrig wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
Bob in Spain wrote:
For those (like me) who think there should be final set TBs in qualies, I didn't spot that PHH v Arnaboldi was stopped last night at 15-15 (that's games btw) in the 3rd set. Crazy.
Arnaboldi finally won 27-25 in the decider.
A compromise could be no final set TB in the FQR only, which would make it fairer in situations like this.
What does fairness have to do with anything?
This is elite professional sport, survival of the fittest. If you take 4 and half hours to win a match and are a bit tired in the next round that's your fault.

Yes. I agree.

My only gripe is when the spectators are penalised i.e. if the guy in the semis plays for 6 hours, wins, is a wreck and then the final is a complete waste of time because he can barely walk.

TMH · Futures qualifying

That's a very emphatic win for Kyle. Good stuff.

I'm sure he has played both Samper and Menendez before.

Edit: He beat Samper-Montana 5-7, 7-5, 6-4 in the QFs of a clay Futures in 2013 but went down 6-4, 4-6, 6-7(4) to Menendez-Maceiras in the QFs of the Segovia challenger last year (on hard). Menendez is ranked 8 places higher than Kyle whilst Samper is over 100 places below him.

-- Edited by TMH on Thursday 21st of May 2015 03:05:27 PM

indiana · Tennis legend

I do think huge marathon tiebreaks that leave you knackered for the next round are ridiculous.

Where would some folk stop in this 'survival of the fittest' stuff. That John Isner was a wuss at Wimbledon the other year when struggling in his next round after his marathonnnn tie break win. He even mentioned it as an issue, buck up man

As an aside, and on slightly different grounds since I accept that no other match follows a Slam final, I would ALWAYS have final set TBs at 6-6. I accept that I'm probably in the minority in that one.

RJA · Hall of fame

indiana wrote:
Where would some folk stop in this 'survival of the fittest' stuff. That John Isner was a wuss at Wimbledon the other year when struggling in his next round after his marathonnnn tie break win. He even mentioned it as an issue, buck up man

I wouldn't suggest that he was a "wuss". I would suggest that he paid the price for not being able to break his opponent's serve for so long.

-- Edited by RJA on Thursday 21st of May 2015 04:44:31 PM

A131 · Intermediate Club Player

BeefyDeedz wrote:
What a win! Can't argue with that, well done Kyle.

Well, you could if you wanted - Hanescu is 33 years old now with his best days way behind him and may possibly felt a bit tired from his first round match - 13 years is a lot to give away but then again you can only beat what's put in front of you. Expect a close match with the Spaniard!

BeefyDeedz · Pro player

A131 wrote:
BeefyDeedz wrote:
What a win! Can't argue with that, well done Kyle.
Well, you could if you wanted - Hanescu is 33 years old now with his best days way behind him and may possibly felt a bit tired from his first round match - 13 years is a lot to give away but then again you can only beat what's put in front of you. Expect a close match with the Spaniard!

Err, I'm not sure what you think my comment was based on, but I certainly wasn't insinuating that you couldn't argue with my previous comment. I'm not really sure what you sought from this..

confuse

EddietheEagle · County player

Hanescu's age takes nothing away from Edmund's performance today. Hanescu is ex-top thirty and well capable of holding his own for two sets on a surface he grew up on. Edmund demolished him. With this win plus his general consistency of late, young Kyle is starting to separate himself from the British pack around him.

RJA · Hall of fame

Ranking points after the French Open based on results so far

Ward: 478
Edmund: 457

A win tomorrow would take Kyle up to 476. James obviously has opportunities to add points at the two challenger events but if Kyle makes it through tomorrow and gets a nice draw he could add points next week.

Oakland2002 · All-time great

Great win I'm not arguing, can't just write off players these days on the basis of age, lot to learn at 20, learnt a lot at 33 and the ranks reflect that. Then there's Fed!

Well done Kyle I'd be happy with a 23-21 third set win tomorrow, in reality I think that's Kyle's next really big test 5 set tennis!

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

QR2: (q8) James Ward WR 106 lost to Christian Lindell (SWE) WR 200 3-6 7-6(5) 6-2 bleh
QR2: (q17) Kyle Edmund WR 121 beat Victor Hanescu (ROU) WR 187 6-1 6-2 biggrin
QR2: Brydan Klein WR 195 lost to (q31) Facundo Argüello (ARG) WR 139 6-3 6-1 cry

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FQR: (q17) Kyle Edmund WR 121 v Adrian Menendez Maceiras (ESP) WR 113 (=CH)

EddietheEagle · County player

Tomorrow's is a tough match against a Spanish clay courter ranked above him. You might argue his win today was a one off. A win tomorrow though would show a pattern and confirm a step change in his level.