General election/politics

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

RE: General election/politics

Tanaqui · Club Coach

Bob in Spain wrote:
There is a 'theory' going around on twitter that Sunak's campaign team are on some kind of "Brewster's Millions" challenge and the more they sabotage him, the more they get.

The day after he was accused of being 'captain of a sinking ship' they organised an interview for him at the birthplace of the titanic.

Then they advised him to ask the Welsh if they were looking forward to the Euros - even though they didn't qualify

And now, the day after abandoning the D-Day commemoration event early, they send him to a school on a street called 'Veteran's Way'.
https://x.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1799072456038293741

Or it's just that the Tory Party Chairman has been too distracted going on a chicken run to find a new seat at the last minute (over the strong objections of the local party):

https://archive.ph/tIWyN

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Ian Acheson, a senior Tory advisor has quit today over the D-Day fiasco yesterday.

The final paragraph of his resignation letter reads:

"It was an act of either colossal stupidity or cynical calculation. While I still embrace a conservative philosophy, I am no longer willing to have it outsourced to a bunch of mendacious, incompetent and disreputable clowns.

Ouch.

indiana · Tennis legend

This is not so far an election that is looking closer each day.

The Tory betting odds get worse each day.

indiana · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
Ian Acheson, a senior Tory advisor has quit today over the D-Day fiasco yesterday.

The final paragraph of his resignation letter reads:

"It was an act of either colossal stupidity or cynical calculation. While I still embrace a conservative philosophy, I am no longer willing to have it outsourced to a bunch of mendacious, incompetent and disreputable clowns.

Ouch.

Yep.

indiana · Tennis legend

Meantime, in Scotland ...

The Conservative MP David Duguid has been seriously ill with spinal issues though felt he was improving and wanted to contest the election.

However he was deselected for medical reasons. And he has been replaced as candidate by the Scottish Tory Leader, Douglas Ross. ( currently an MSP at Holytood but not an MP ).

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 7th of June 2024 07:04:13 PM

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Theyre becoming a joke. Sorry. They are a joke.

Tanaqui · Club Coach

indiana wrote:
Meantime, in Scotland ...

The Conservative MO David Duguid has has been seriously ill with spinal issues though felt he was improving wanted to contest the election.

However he was deselected for medical reasons. And he has been replaced as candidate by the Scottish Tory Leader, Douglas Ross. ( currently an MSP at Holytood but mot an MP ).
..

DRoss having said he wouldn't stand for Westminster so he could concentrate on being an MSP....

Lambda · Challenger level

indiana wrote:

Meantime, in Scotland ...

The Conservative MP David Duguid has been seriously ill with spinal issues though felt he was improving and wanted to contest the election.

However he was deselected for medical reasons. And he has been replaced as candidate by the Scottish Tory Leader, Douglas Ross. ( currently an MSP at Holytood but not an MP.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 7th of June 2024 07:04:13 PM

Well, there's no MPs currently so technically correct, but he was MP for Moray until the dissolution of parliament.

indiana · Tennis legend

Lambda wrote:
indiana wrote:

Meantime, in Scotland ...

The Conservative MP David Duguid has been seriously ill with spinal issues though felt he was improving and wanted to contest the election.

However he was deselected for medical reasons. And he has been replaced as candidate by the Scottish Tory Leader, Douglas Ross. ( currently an MSP at Holytood but not an MP.

-- Edited by indiana on Friday 7th of June 2024 07:04:13 PM

Well, there's no MPs currently so technically correct, but he was MP for Moray until the dissolution of parliament.

Thanks, I hadn't realised that Ross had still been an MP.

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

Bob in Spain wrote:
Ian Acheson, a senior Tory advisor has quit today over the D-Day fiasco yesterday.

The final paragraph of his resignation letter reads:

"It was an act of either colossal stupidity or cynical calculation. While I still embrace a conservative philosophy, I am no longer willing to have it outsourced to a bunch of mendacious, incompetent and disreputable clowns.

Ouch.

Love it! Why didn't he say what he really meant? wink That sentence pretty much encapsulates my own feelings. If I do go to the polling station, it will be to spoil my ballot paper, as I did in the London mayoral election, when I scrawled "none of the buggers - Paul Scully" in block capitals across the top of it (Scully being the former Minister for London who, IMHO, would have made a more creditable candidate than Susan Hall for whom I might have been persuaded to vote). I am now effectively disenfranchised! bleh disbelief

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Just me, but I wouldn't spoil your ballot, SC

Vote for Green, vote for Reform, vote the Monster Raving Loony party - it doesn't matter - I can see a justification for any and every party apart from the Tory party - but I think every person should cast a proper vote

(And remember, every spoiled paper has to go to the commissioner and sometimes they 'salvage' them, interpreting a vote for a certain candidate - highly dubious)

It's true they might all be cr*p, but we have to be governed by someone (unless one believes in complete anarchy, in which case you wouldn't be at the polling stations in the first place) and so we're under an obligation - I think - to choose the best of the bunch, even if that's setting the bar terrbily low

JonH comes home · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Just me, but I wouldn't spoil your ballot, SC

Vote for Green, vote for Reform, vote the Monster Raving Loony party - it doesn't matter - I can see a justification for any and every party apart from the Tory party - but I think every person should cast a proper vote

(And remember, every spoiled paper has to go to the commissioner and sometimes they 'salvage' them, interpreting a vote for a certain candidate - highly dubious)

It's true they might all be cr*p, but we have to be governed by someone (unless one believes in complete anarchy, in which case you wouldn't be at the polling stations in the first place) and so we're under an obligation - I think - to choose the best of the bunch, even if that's setting the bar terrbily low

Hear hear

christ · Futures level

To quote myself from earlier in this thread:

christ wrote:
Who in the Conservative party would be any better than Mr Johnson? Who in either/ any of the opposition parties?

I dislike this man intensely, and disapprove of almost everything he has ever done, but none of the rest are any better: based on recent history any one that may appear better now will likely betray that trust as soon as it is bestowed upon them. Every single modern senior Conservative, Labour or Liberal politician appears to this cynic to be untrustworthy.

... and if some of the minority/ single issue/ independent politicians appear trustworthy they are the generally people with policies with which I disagree intensely (or in fact no policy at all about things that bother me, like war, famine, plague and pestilence)

... the Mr Johnson bit is no longer applicable, but the rest of the post still stands.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I don't agree

You're comparing a confirmed current awful failure with a projected potential awful failure

At least give the projected potential one a chance - you may possibly be wrong

Because you sure as h*ll know that you're not wrong with the confirmed current one