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RE: Week 19 - Challenger (€50,000+H) - Samarkand, Uzbekistan - red clay


paulisi wrote:
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It will work out quite nicely for now, as i'm sure both will play the grass season in the UK and then it will be dependent on how Liam's ranking progresses.

There is a big financial risk for Luke to play challenger qualifiers week in week out.


 

There's an even bigger financial risk if he plays ITF 10ks week in, week out.

 

With a 10k that involves travel and lodging, a player does not break even or make a very meagre profit unless he makes the final/wins the title. It's practically guaranteed to make a loss.

Therefore, from a purely financial point of view, any business model that involves 10ks is fundamentally flawed.

The only value of them is as a means to invest in yourself for the future, by experience and points.

From a business point of view, Luke would be advised to take out a contract with French league tennis, lock into 5 games and about £5,000 - £7,000 of guaranteed earnings (with zero expenses) and use that money to play challengers. The high-earning British Tour events would make sense here too.

How many of our players (since the scrapping of the top-up fund and before the prize money hikes come in) have earned 5k POST-expenses from 10-15ks? My guess would be hardly any (although doubles can help a little). So, why guarantee the loss? Why not play challengers and have the chance to make a profit, and earn money elsewhere to fund it?

 


 That argument about 10ks v challenger doesn't wash unless you are hugely talented. There needs to be a balance. There are no points or cash in challenger qualifiers unless you win 3 rounds and there are expenses to boot. With a ranking over 400, you are bound to walk into a tough draw.

For 10ks you should at least be able to pick up some wins, points and prize money to cover some costs.

No issues earning money playing club tennis or British tour to supplement income.

Its all a balancing act unless you have a generous sponsor or governing body.


 

yes. obviously on a practical basis, a player will play both. And points are important. match play is important too. And so you need to do the 10ks. Quite agree.

But you can't really say it's financially sensible. Or a financial risk not to. Which is what the original post said. A 10k is a sure-fire loss maker. Therefore, technically, it's a financial risk to DO it, not NOT to do it. (Although the financial risk is necessary for the points/matchplay).



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great stuff, brydan.

The sun keep shining over there . . .



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Should put Brydan back into the top 200.

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Luke has lost the first set 3-6

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Liam takes the 1st set 6-3.

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But loses the second 4 - 6

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No panic, he's *5-2 up in the 3rd.

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L16:  (6) Liam Broady WR 182 defeated (WC) Djurabeck Karimov (UZB) WR 1113 by 6-3 4-6 6-2
L16:  (8) Brydan Klein WR 205 defeated Nikola Milojevic (SRB) WR 320 by 6-4 1-6 6-4
L16:  Saketh Myneni (IND) WR 229 defeated (Q) Luke Bambridge WR 732 by 3 & 2

 

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QF:  (1) Teymuraz Gabashvili (RUS) WR 82 (CH = 52 in April last year) vs (6) Liam Broady WR 182
QF:  (8) Brydan Klein WR 205 vs Saketh Myneni (IND) WR 229 (= CH)



-- Edited by Stircrazy on Wednesday 13th of May 2015 01:15:50 PM

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More welcome, if not straightforward, wins for Liam and Brydan. Hopefully building blocks.

And well done Luke on what he has achieved this week.

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Well done Liam and Brydan biggrin



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Shame for Bambo, I wonder how much his level dropped today, but lots to look forward to for the rest of the season. Liam had 1 bad service game in the match and it cost him the 2nd set. Tomorrow will be interesting, would be great to see Liam reach his 1st semis of the season.

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They nearly pulled it off!

QF:  (2) Sergey Betov & Mikhail Elgin (BLR/RUS) CR 291 (86+205) defeated Matt Ebden (AUS) & Brydan Klein CR 464 (255+171) by 5-7 6-2 [10-8]



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Liam a break down, Brydan on serve

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Both lost the first set 6-4

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Second set to Brydan 6-1

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