Dan Cox

Salmon · Tennis legend

RE: Daniel Cox.

Salmon · Tennis legend

Entries for Australian Open Juniors, and the warm up events - Traralgon and Nottinghill (both G1), close on Monday.

We will get to know a lot about the plans of all the Juniors very soon then.

Drew · Dec 9, 2006

Greenleaf wrote:

Entries for Australian Open Juniors, and the warm up events - Traralgon and Nottinghill (both G1), close on Monday.

We will get to know a lot about the plans of all the Juniors very soon then.

Thanks for all the junior updates and info Greenleaf you are contributing greatly !!!!!

Hope Mr Cox gets himslef fit soon and makes inroads this year.

-- Edited by Drew at 09:57, 2006-12-09

Salmon · Tennis legend

Drew wrote:

Thanks for all the junior updates and info Greenleaf you are contributing greatly !!!!!

Thank you!

Drew wrote:

Hope Mr Cox gets himslef fit soon and makes inroads this year.

He doesn't know about his immediate plans because of this injury.

Hopefully he will get better soon. He doesn't defend anything in Juniors singles till June, so he can move up the rankings whenever he gets a good run in the bigger tournaments.

His first ever senior point will drop off very soon though.

Ratty · County player

Greetings from the Ratman!!!

On the height thing. I've seen Dan & Dan playing on the junior circuit for years, and I can't see any further growth in height. Both have quite short parents, and matured early, so it seems a bit unlikely. Evans is not actually that short - maybe 5'8". Cox is maybe 5'4" - there was a picture of him and Josh Milton in China on the LTA website, and Milton (who is about 5'9") towered over Dan.

I'd also disagree with the poster who thinks that the LTA are not behind them. Yeah, you might have spoken to an individual connected with the LTA, who may have expressed his personal opinion. But the facts tell a different story. As far as I know, the LTA pay for Evans to train at Martin Weston's academy at Nottingham, where Mark Hilton hits with him on a full-time basis and takes him to all tournaments. That will cost the LTA about £50,000+ per year.

Cox is even more expensive. Again (as far as I know) the LTA pay for Magnus Tijdeman to coach him pretty well full-time at Queen's. Magnus' previous job was coaching Thomas Johansson for over 10 years, so we're not talking cheap!

Ratty · County player

I'm back already! Well, I need to start closing the gap on the guy with 11,000 posts!

Don't forget that a lot of pro's blatantly lie about their height. There are plenty of tiddlers around - they just add a few inches on their ATP profile. Grosjean is "officially" 5'9", but is in reality about 5'6". Hewitt, Robredo and Agassi (all officially 5'11") are actually about 5'9". Baghdatis is even more vain - he claims to be 6' - a complete joke. Other top midgets are Coria and Gaudio (both officially 5'9", but really 2-3 inches shorter).

It's no coincidence that the average height of a top 100 male player has remained constant at about 6'0", because that seems to give the optimum balance of reach and mobility. Being 6'6" is probably no better than being 5'6", in that the taller player will probably be comparatively immobile and very prone to injury - and this compensates for the huge serve that most of them have. Karlovic is the most extreme example.

Salmon · Tennis legend

Welcome to the site, Ratman.

Thanks for the inside info. It's much appreciated.

We can never really tell about heights. My own self grew taller by six odd inches after I turned 16, and my parents aren't tall either.

I don't really know if that thing you say about pros is correct, but I hope that it is.

And Baghdatis doesn't look six feet to me. Either it's a mistake on the site, or it's a lie.

Drew · Dec 10, 2006

Welcome Ratty...thanks for the insight re players heights.....glad you joined and look forward to many more posts if you want to catch David the admin / owner.

Feel free to goto the introductions thread and let us know a bit about you !!!

Drew

Ratty · County player

The proof of the tennis midgets' lies!!!!

http://www.itftennis.com/abouttheitf/gallery/gallery.asp?current=5597&txtPlayerSearch=&txtTeamSearch=&sbmStatus=custom&id=76&type=&set=7#mid

Assume that Federer and Roddick really are 6'1". Hewitt's eyes are on a level with Roddick's chin, so Hewitt is probably 5" shorter - ie 5'8". (And of course Roddick is wearing a natty pair of sneakers with no heels). And Coria is a good 2" shorter than Hewitt.

Check out Moya too - Safin probably really is about 6'4", but Moya claims to be 6'3". Ho ho ho!!!

Salmon · Tennis legend

Great stuff there!

If Hewitt can win two Slams while being 5 feet 8 or 9, I am pretty sure that you can crack the top 10 if you are two inches shorter than that.

-- Edited by Greenleaf at 09:47, 2006-12-10

johnnylad · Tennis legend

Don't get too carried away Arka. Height is only one factor.

Players like Hewitt are also the exception not the norm, and the power game is becoming more and more successful and conquering these days.

Having said that - GO COX!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cox for World No 1!

Salmon · Tennis legend

johnnylad wrote:

Having said that - GO COX!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cox for World No 1!

Yeah, the road is so long and so much can happen. Maybe he will never see the top 200. Maybe he will be world class some day.

I'll just hope for the best.

-- Edited by Greenleaf at 09:56, 2006-12-10

Drew · Dec 10, 2006

johnnylad wrote:

Don't get too carried away Arka. Height is only one factor.

Players like Hewitt are also the exception not the norm, and the power game is becoming more and more successful and conquering these days.

Having said that - GO COX!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cox for World No 1!

Nice post Johnny.....

Don't get too carried away Arka.

Okay thats good......sensible response....looking good so far....

Cox for World No 1!

Oh dear...looks like Arka's mind games has bewitched you....

Cox for World No 1!

I hope he makes the top 500 next year......I do believe he wil make it good one day !

-- Edited by Drew at 10:29, 2006-12-10

Salmon · Tennis legend

Haha. I've never said that he will be world number one. I've never even said that he will be a top ten player.

Just said that he can become a top ten player.

Which I think is fair if you see his results.

The road is too long though. So much can happen, for good or for bad.

-- Edited by Greenleaf at 10:35, 2006-12-10

Salmon · Tennis legend

Daniel will play a full Australian schedule of Tralalgon, Nottinghill and AO.

Lists for Tralalgon and Nottinghill :

http://www.tennisaustralia.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetId=RDM39064.7844735417

http://www.tennisaustralia.com.au/pages/image.aspx?assetId=RDM39064.7840472917

They are extremely strong!! I hope that Dan will be fit enough to make the trip.