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Is Andy Murray suffering from "I have made it syndrome "


Has the  monumental effort to win Wimbledon taken its toll and the level of desire and indeed sacrifice required no longer realistic ? 

It might be subconscious but breaking up a winning formula was not the smartest move ! 



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If you are referring to Lendl, Andy didn't break it up, Lendl did. He has just reaffirmed that by refusing to coach Berdych on the grounds that he doesn't have the time.

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must be tough coaching Andy even when you have the genius of Ivan Lendl 



-- Edited by A1 tennis academy on Saturday 18th of October 2014 04:42:10 PM

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As you probably know, success brings it own demands. What do I do next? Plus of course, rather than just play and pile up money without changing much by way of lifestyle - which seems to be Nadal's very grounded approach - Murray looks fairly engaged with off court business. These things can act as additional distraction. He's arguably overplaying to make the year end WTF which to me suggests other priorities exist beyond the strictly tennis and there may be a price he eventually pays for this. He's still only mid-career though so plenty of time yet to adjust.



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Just one opinion but I don't think that too much is wrong with Andy Firstly he hasn't been able to get back to the top as quick as Nadal as he is not as good a player as Nadal.

The surgery at the end of last season has evidently hindered his training block that Andy does in order to get himself ready for a new season. As a result Andy does not have the base level of fitness that he has had in other seasons. This is affecting him psychologically as well as physically. As Andy's game is built around his retrieving and his endurance, he finds himself trying to win the points earlier now as he has experienced running out of gas on a number of occasions this season.

Andy will know what he has to do in order to get himself at the top table again. Hopefully the emergence of younger players coming into the top 10 will galvanise him.

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I do think that there is a small part of him that spent so long striving to win a Grand Slam and then to win Wimbledon that no longer has quite the same level of desire as before. I am sure that in his darkest moments he would have harboured the thought of never winning a slam despite all the finals and all the opportunities. The relief of finally getting over the winning line was obvious and the slight mental let up since then understandable.

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chavkev wrote:

Just one opinion but I don't think that too much is wrong with Andy Firstly he hasn't been able to get back to the top as quick as Nadal as he is not as good a player as Nadal.

The surgery at the end of last season has evidently hindered his training block that Andy does in order to get himself ready for a new season. As a result Andy does not have the base level of fitness that he has had in other seasons. This is affecting him psychologically as well as physically. As Andy's game is built around his retrieving and his endurance, he finds himself trying to win the points earlier now as he has experienced running out of gas on a number of occasions this season.

Andy will know what he has to do in order to get himself at the top table again. Hopefully the emergence of younger players coming into the top 10 will galvanise him.


 

Good post.



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He certainly looked as though he had found the will to win again today.

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I cannot imagine what it would be like to have spent years taking care of every detail of your physical training so that your body did exactly what you wanted it to ... and then discovering that despite your best efforts to recover, it just wasn't feasible to be confident of that any more. Mr Murray has always said that knowing that he could rely on his physical training was vital to his confidence generally - scant surprise that he was a bit knocked for six not to be able to do what he has always done. And then there must be the uncertainty: will it ever come back? Will I always be just the nearly person ... or one of those people who was a great player but never recovered his form after illness? Hence, I suspect, the tears after his first title. And hence the huge value of the Vienna win.



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Nope. I think Chavkev got it spot on. The success he had was when playing at his absolute best with every duck lined up. Injury has messed with most of his duck synchronisation. It strikes me that he is doing everything he can to get them back in order. 2014 was always likely to be this way, here's hoping for a couple more wins this year so he starts next year in the top 8 and a storming injury free training block. My feeling is this is a guy who could not have done more to win a slam and is desperate to be in the picture in 2015!

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I don't think we're disagreeing hugely, Oakland. My point was that I don't feel that he's suffering from a lack of mental desire to win - rather that it must have been tremendously difficult not being able to do physically - on a consistent basis - what he needed to do to win. That's primarily a physical issue, but it must have had some consequences in terms of confidence. Like you, I think that since he is recovering physically and has had two (almost) seriatim hugely significant wins, the signs are good for 2015!

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I'll plump for a bit of both, some motivational issues, but also coming back from injury.
I hope I'm wrong but I don't see any quick fixes next year, I suspect he'll be a little bit better next year with a full December training block, but I don't see him challenging Nole if he's on top form.

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I tend to be with Spectator on Andy's prospects 2015. I think there are big signs that he has refound desire ( I do think that had probably understandably been lost a bit ) and I would exoect him to be physically in much better condition. And we know he has the ability ! My remaining big worry would be all this talk about changing to a less agressive ( but supposedly more enjoyable for Andy ) style. However, I do take quite a lot of what Andy says with a pinch of salt - for instance, yes, mate, you are not that bothered about quailifying for the WTF, just getting a more solid base for 2015, that'll be why you are currently flogging yourself playing every week no doubt !

Of course, time will tell, but I am pretty optimistic.

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