Week 37 - Turkey F31 ($10,000) - Antalya (Hard)

steven · Tennis legend

Week 37 - Turkey F31 ($10,000) - Antalya (Hard)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

I don't understand the draw at all. Normally, you're told to do high seeds with low seeds i.e. the basic way is that the better player is 'protected' by playing the worse player. So, if you add the seeds together, you get the same number for each pairing - number 1 plays number 8, 2 v 7, 3 v 6, 4 v 5 : they all equal 9. (There's a slight variation if you want 1 v 3, and 2 v 4 as your final pairings, as opposed to 1 v 4 and 2 v 3, but it makes no major difference).

And yet here, for instance, Aswin is (9) and yet due to play the (6) in the final q round, whereas Scott is (12) and due to play the (8).

Also, non GB, the (3) gets the (10), but the (7) gets the (13)

I don't understand . . .

-- Edited by Coup Droit on Saturday 6th of September 2014 06:29:47 AM

freerider · Futures level

i thought that seeds 9 - 16 got placed randomly. could be wrong.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

freerider wrote:
i thought that seeds 9 - 16 got placed randomly. could be wrong.

OK - at least that would make sense smile thanks

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, qualifying seeds 9 to 16 placed randomly. In FQRs the top seeds ( i.e. these seeded to qualify ) are matched randomly with the second group of seeds ).

In main draws with more than 8 seeds there is an element of batching, eg 1 to 4, 5 to 8, 9 to 12, 13 to 16, but random within that.

Jan · Hall of fame

I seem to remember that in the past (60's/70's maybe) there were allocated slots in the draw for all the seeds, certainly at Wimbledon. Then at some point they introduced the random element.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

QR2: (q1) Scott Clayton WR 1133 lost to Tom Jomby (FRA) UNR (CH 1471 in 2011) 6-4 6-3

QR2: (q9) Aswin Lizen WR 1859 def. Arseniy Morozov (RUS) UNR 4-6 6-4 4-0 retired

QR2: (q12) Scott Duncan WR 2067 def. Chris Watson (AUS) UNR 4-6 6-1 6-1

FQR: (q9) Aswin Lizen WR 1859 v Oleksandr Gulyevskyy (UKR) UNR

FQR: (q12) Scott Duncan WR 2067 v (q8) Bastien Favier (FRA) WR 1639 (CH 1322 in Oct. 2012)

paulisi · Tennis legend

Scott Clayton should be winning these sorts of matches....

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

paulisi wrote:
Scott Clayton should be winning these sorts of matches....

I was a bit surprised too, but Tom did make the quarters in Turkey last week, beating the WR 612 player and only losing in a close match to Vorster who went on to win the title.

He also won the doubles title. So I guess he's playing well . .

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

FQR: (q9) Aswin Lizen WR 1859 lost to Oleksandr Gulyevskyy (UKR) UNR 1-6 6-2 6-0

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

R1: Muhammet Haylaz & Sefa Suluoglu (TUR/TUR) UNR vs (3) Scott Clayton & Richard Gabb CR 1129 (685+444)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

FQR: (q12) Scott Duncan WR 2067 lost to (q8) Bastien Favier (FRA) WR 1639 (CH 1322 in Oct. 2012) 6-2 6-2

R1: (3) Richard Gabb WR 489 v (LL) Andrei Novikov (BLR) WR 2210 (CH 1983 last year)

R1: (wc) Jack Oswald v (wc) Anton Manegin (RUS) WR 1310 (CH 825 sept. 2010)

steven · Tennis legend

Here's a full round-up, including the missing FQR result:

FQR: (q9) Aswin Lizen WR 1859 lost to Oleksandr Gulyevskyy (UKR) UNR by 1-6 6-2 6-0

FQR: (q12) Scott Duncan WR 2067 lost to (q8) Bastien Favier (FRA) WR 1639 (CH 1322 in 2012) by 2 & 2

L32: (WC) Jack Oswald UNR v (WC) Anton Manegin (RUS) WR 1310 (CH 825 in 2010)
L32: (3) Richard Gabb WR 489 v (LL) Andrei Novikov (BLR) WR 2210 (CH 1983 in 2013)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Excuse me, young sir ! No missing FQR result :)

Just done as two separate posts . . . (which is not the most helpful, I agree . . .)

steven · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Excuse me, young sir ! No missing FQR result :)

Just done as two separate posts . . . (which is not the most helpful, I agree . . .)

Oops - I'm a bit dozy today doh