Week 30 - Slovakia F2 ($10,000) - Michalovce (clay)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Week 30 - Slovakia F2 ($10,000) - Michalovce (clay)

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Should certainly hope so re Jack. Given his rankings jump since winning his first title a couple of weeks ago, he should be close to being seeded. But I can never remember if entries/seedings are based on ranking at time of entry or ranking on the week before the tournament.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

the ITF acceptance list has Jack as third alt. based on his 1229 ranking.

But, like you, I don;t understand how long the delay is between inscription/ranking date/seeding date . . . .

indiana · Tennis legend

Entries to the main draw ( and qualifying ) are based on rankings at entry list time, i.e. as they appear on acceptance lists.

Seedings are based on rankings that come out on Monday of the previous week to the tournament, so seedings here will be based on the current rankings.

indiana · Tennis legend

So in theory, with a big rankings riser, you can have someone whose entry ranking doesn't get him into the main draw, but if it had he would have been seeded based on his ranking the previous Monday.

You do get occasions where a qualifier is seeded in the main draw. This is usually with a late / WC entry to qualifying, who really always was relatively highly ranked, but could happen in the big rankings jump scenario.

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Entries to the main draw ( and qualifying ) are based on rankings at entry list time, i.e. as they appear on acceptance lists.

Seedings are based on rankings that come out on Monday of the previous week to the tournament, so seedings here will be based on the current rankings.

Thanks Indiana. Was hoping somebody more knowledgeable would leap in with the information.

So Jack has an outside chance of being seeded.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Tx Indy.

So that means that Jack was lucky to scrape in as a WR 1229-er but will now be WR 777 for the setting of the seedings ?

NB When is the entry date ? i.e. how many weeks beforehand ?

paulisi · Tennis legend

Entry deadline is 3rd July.

Jack may well have sneaked that 8thranking, dependant on wildcards or big movers since the entry list

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, CD, WR 1229 for entry into MD, but once he's in, WR 777 for seeding.

I believe for futures ( and most other tournaments, I think, but not such as Slams ), the entry list is based on the rankings 3 weeks before the tournament start, i.e. theoretically 30/06 here ( actually 23/06 because no new rankings that Monday ).

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Brilliant, paulisi and Indy.

So: deadline 3rd july. Hence, rankings from 30/6 (i.e not the new ones on 7th july, which is when Jack jumped up - so to speak). But no rankings on the 30th so rankings from 23rd July, when Jack was still way down.

Sorted !!!

Thank you :)

indiana · Tennis legend

Cheers, paulisi, I wasn't sure of the actual entry date deadline, but looks like we tie in for what rankings the entry list will be based on.

paulisi · Tennis legend

entry deadlines are on the factsheet on the ITF site, hence when I know when to update the weekly playing schedules.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Andy's opponent is now known:

Q2: (9) Andrew Bettles WR 1850 v. Harrison Lombe (AUS) UNR

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

Jack gets that seeding after all.

L32: (7) Jack Carpenter WR 777 v Pavel Staubert (CZE) WR 1207 (CH 1184 last month)

Stircrazy · Tennis legend

R1: Michal Dembek & Diogo Lourenço (POL/POR) UNR vs Andrew Bettles & Jack Carpenter UNR