Week 26 - Wimbledon men's main draw

Spectator · All-time great

RE: Week 26 - Wimbledon men's main draw

indiana · Tennis legend

Apologies from me, Spectator.

I was already thinking even before your post that I had worded my previous post badly, and in fact was pretty sure you didn't wish "comparative ill" or indeed any sort of ill on Kyle or Evo.

As you make even clearer, it was more feeling sorry for the other guys re their draw.

I think I had been building to this with some of the phraseology at times used on the forum regarding Kyle, when he himself seems a nice, level headed guy.

But I picked on the wrong post and poster.

RJA · Hall of fame

Spectator wrote:
Sorry: I was in no way casting aspersions on Mr Edmund or Mr Evans, though reading back, I can see how it read that way. Nor would I wish either of them ill - whether absolute or comparative - as would be clear from other posts on the board at other points. But while in no way wishing bad draws on the others, I am sorry that the players who have had so little support should have such tough draws. I should simply have left it at that.

I suppose we all have a tendency to focus on the bad draws and forget the good ones. In the case of Dan Smethurst he has had a pretty good draw in his last 4 challengers and at Eastbourne qualifying. Furthermore the catalyst for his good run this season seems to have been his SF in the Champaign challenger last November when he had a very friendly draw. Obviously a better draw here would have been nice but in the grand scheme of things a run of good challenger draws is probably preferable than a good Wimbledon draw especially as Dan would be under dog against at least 95% of the field. It's similar with Coxy, he has some nice draws this year in challengers and had a decent draw at Queen's. Meanwhile Kyle has had three tough draws in a row so was probably due a more friendly one.

Priesty · Challenger level

Would be great to see Kyle get his first Wimbledon MD win and a good chance for him to do so. Hope Evo can have a good run too otherwise I fear it will soon be back to the low 200s in the rankings for him.

LouieG · County player

Kyle is actually favourite with the bookies

Bob in Spain · Tennis legend

LouieG wrote:
Kyle is actually favourite with the bookies

Well that's put the mockers on that then

steven · Tennis legend

LouieG wrote:
Kyle is actually favourite with the bookies

I'm surprised it's not closer to 50:50. The current odds imply the following chances of surviving R1:

93% Andy
65% Kyle
39% DanE
25% James
9% DanC
7% DanS

They total 237%, i.e. between 2 and 3 getting through.

LordBrownof · Futures level

On the Wimbledon website fantasy game, Kyle's opponents is one of the most expensive when picking your return of server. Suggests excellent returner. Kyle will have to serve well.

gattolibero · Social player

RJA wrote:
Youzhny has had injury problems for much of the year so Ward might have half a chance. Can't see Smethy or Cox having a sniff. Great draw for Evo and Kyle.

I saw Youzhny playing live in Rome against Nadal, he put in real trouble Nadal and it was on the clay... worst surface for Youzhny and best for Nadal.

I think that James Ward has no chance to pass this turn, but I hope to be wrong. He has to play a great match at his best.

spud · Challenger qualifying

Surprised to see people suggest Smethurst has no chance at all. Yes Isner will be dangerous to anyone on grass with his serve but I can see Dan pushing for a few tiebreaks hopefully and then who knows...

Cox has a bad draw and will struggle to take a set

The Ward match will be interesting but if he is losing to Donald Young 2 and 3 then he really has no chance here

Evans and Edmund really need to take advantage of them draws!

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, as I suggested in another thread, if Dan Smethurst was to be drawn against a really top player, Isner was a pretty good one to get.

His generally relatively ( to his ranking ) appalling return of serve record gives Dan a decent chance of establishing a foothold in the match.

I fully expect Isner to win, but I actually like that draw better than a good all round player ranked say in the WR 30 to 50 bracket.

SMC1809 · All-time great

Dan's much maligned back-hand slice could be quite useful against Isner.

philwrig · Hall of fame

steven wrote:
LouieG wrote:
Kyle is actually favourite with the bookies
I'm surprised it's not closer to 50:50. The current odds imply the following chances of surviving R1:
93% Andy
65% Kyle
39% DanE
25% James
9% DanC
7% DanS
They total 237%, i.e. between 2 and 3 getting through.

Ah betting odds, something I know a little about.

As per usual the mainly British bookmakers unsurprisingly shortening the price of the British player at Wimby. These odds would be fine if Wimby provided a big home advantage, but as we have seen in many years prior, the weight of expectation/pressure often has an impact in a negative way.

Based on those odds Evo looks like the best value even with a dodgy knee.

Jaggy1876 · Grand Slam Champion

I reckon only Andy will make it through in the men's but women's I think Hev Jo and Naomi will win.

Jaffa · Challenger level

Hi all, hope someone will be able to help with a few queries.

I'm off on Wednesday and Thursday for the first time ever (eek), I was wondering if you can go to court one if you have a centre court ticket.

Also, I am thinking about queuing for a grounds pass on Tuesday. What time should I get there to have a chance?

Cheers, Jaffa