Week 24 - Play off for Wimbledon qualifying wild cards - Aorangi Park (Grass)

Shhh · Challenger level

RE: Week 24 - Play off for Wimbledon qualifying wild cards - Aorangi Park (Grass)

paulisi · Tennis legend

What's the points situation for Wimbledon qualifiers? I knows it's 25pts for making main draw.(not on ATP site)

The women's is 2pts for turning up and then 20/30/40

RJA · Hall of fame

paulisi wrote:
What's the points situation for Wimbledon qualifiers? I knows it's 25pts for making main draw.(not on ATP site)

The women's is 2pts for turning up and then 20/30/40

8/16/25

In effect you get 35 points for qualifying as you get another 10 if you lose in R1 of the main draw.

indiana · Tennis legend

Men's is nout for turning up, then 8 / 16 / 25 ( effectively 35, because unlike the women's qualifiers, the men get at least R1 loser points, well I guess if they turn up there ! ).

paulisi · Tennis legend

Klein bt Glasspool according to Soto

steven · Tennis legend

Courtesy of Soto and Craig1Tennis:

PQR2: (1) Brydan Klein WR 440 beat (wc) Lloyd Glasspool WR 1115 by tbc

PQR2: Josh Ward-Hibbert WR 753 beat (3) Neil Pauffley WR 527 by 6-4 in the 3rd

PQR2: James Marsalek WR 778 beat Rob Carter WR 806 in straight sets

PQR2: (4) Josh Milton WR 575 beat Lewis Burton WR 818 by 6-3 6-7(?) 7-6(?)

FPQR: (1) Brydan Klein WR 440 v Josh Ward-Hibbert WR 753
FPQR: (4) Josh Milton WR 575 v James Marsalek WR 778

Smidster · Challenger level

I can tell you Milton beat Marsalek - think it was 6-1 6-2
Klein led Ward-Hibbert 7-6 2-0

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

The results are up on the site.

Brydan beat JWH 7-6 6-4

Josh beat James 6-1 6-2

(I'd give a WC to JWH on this performance, a close loss to the highest seeded player, but I might be a bit biased . . . )

philwrig · Hall of fame

I have to confess in conversation with Paulisi at Edgbaston that I strongly fancied Josh Milts to come through as he is in the form of his life, judged on what I saw at Nottingham, I felt Burts was the danger. Paul thought I was mad to say that ;) glad on this occasion to be proved correct.

steven · Tennis legend

FPQR: (1) Brydan Klein WR 440 beat Josh Ward-Hibbert WR 753 by 7-6(4) 6-4

FPQR: (4) Josh Milton WR 575 beat James Marsalek WR 778 by 1 & 2

Not the playoff winners I'd have picked before all this started, though it was very tough to call when the draw came out. If there's one (and just one) more QWC going, I assume JWH would get it, since he appears to win on all counts, i.e. higher-ranked, closer final match and lost to the top seed.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Well, I think they have two left to give. But Steve Darcis hasn't got a MD one yet (and has asked for one and after his Rafa exploit, there's some sense). So they might want to give him a Q one, I guess.

In the women's they have three left to give.

So for the women, I'd give Lisa and Freya both a WC place (Lisa was one of our best players before injury, nearly qualified for a MD WC one last year, perfectly justifiable) and Freya is one of our young stars, why not? And the two games in one day certainly didn't help either girl - Freya played six sets of tennis and Lisa had a really tough three set SF.
This would also leave one place spare.

For the men, I'd only give one to JWH. Sounds mean to James but if you give all four, for both, it becomes a bit of a precedent. And I'm not sure one can really argue that James deserves one on any other calculation (with Josh you probably can, as per the argument you make, steven). And that also would leave one place spare.

paulisi · Tennis legend

philwrig wrote:
I have to confess in conversation with Paulisi at Edgbaston that I strongly fancied Josh Milts to come through as he is in the form of his life, judged on what I saw at Nottingham, I felt Burts was the danger. Paul thought I was mad to say that ;) glad on this occasion to be proved correct.

OK - you were right. It was an open half and I was surprised Marzi made the final.

indiana · Tennis legend

Yes, I would give a QWC to JWH ahead of James for the reasons given.

If however they feel there are no other candidates putting a case forward, then I have no problem with James also getting one, even if the two losing "finalists" from the women also get one ( as I hope they do ).

Basically, I believe in just doing the most appropriate thing on each occasion. If you do that rather than tie yourself in knots about precedents or non precedents then I think you have more chance of looking to be, and indeed being, fair.

steven · Tennis legend

indiana wrote:
Yes, I would give a QWC to JWH ahead of James for the reasons given.

If however they feel there are no other candidates putting a case forward, then I have no problem with James also getting one, even if the two losing "finalists" from the women also get one ( as I hope they do ).

Basically, I believe in just doing the most appropriate thing on each occasion. If you do that rather than tie yourself in knots about precedents or non precedents then I think you have more chance of looking to be, and indeed being, fair.

Also, there has been enough variation in the past that whatever they do this year could not really be seen as setting a precedent, I think.

If I remember right, they don't tend to leave any QWCs unfilled (i.e. going to the next direct entrants for qualifying), they just give out as many as they want to give out to other players then fill the remainder from the playoffs.

RJA · Hall of fame

The previous years' junior champion normally gets a qualifying wild card and while I would have expected it to have been included in the initial announcement it may still happen. Quinzi isn't playing in any of the obvious alternative tournaments next week so unless he is injured (last played a couple of weeks ago) I can't see that he would not want the wild card.