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Qualifying is a nightmare here by Challenger standards, with the top seeds in each section all in the top 200 - it looks like they would all have got into the main draw direct had they entered on time. Other than that, a few more top 500 players and assorted juniors, doubles specialists and other lower-ranked players.

Dan Smethurst is a direct acceptance and it looks like Dave and Kyle have scraped in too. The next highest-ranked Brits who are not in qualies here or a Queen's and are not known to be elsewhere (like Alex Ward) are Oli, Marcus, Ed, Liam and Ashley, though they can't all get wild cards, obviously.

QR1: Luke Johnson WR 1701 v (q1) Jimmy Wang (TPE) WR 142
QR1: (wc) Curtis Clarke UNR v (wc) Rhett Purcell UNR
QR1: (wc) Samuel Ferguson UNR v Rameez Junaid (AUS) UNR *
QR1: (wc) Sam Hutt WR 1221 v (q6) Michael Venus (NZL) WR 360

QR1: (wc) Jay Clarke UNR v (q2) Nick Kyrgios (AUS) WR 160
Non-GB: Eduardo Struvay (COL) WR 415 v Purav Raja (IND) WR 1167
QR1: Lewis Burton WR 819 v (wc) Sizya Ernest Kivanda UNR
QR1: David Fox UNR v (q7) Adrien Bossel (SUI) WR 379

QR1: Scott Duncan WR 2015 v (q3) Martin Fischer (AUT) WR 180
QR1: Neil Pauffley WR 490 v (wc) Vincent Gillespie UNR
QR1: Jathan Malik WR 874 v Sanchai Ratiwatana (THA) WR 1368
QR1: Josh Milton WR 569 v (q5) Kevin King (USA) WR 331

QR1: Scott Clayton WR 1153 v (q4) John-Patrick Smith (AUS) WR 198
QR1: Richard Gabb WR 434 v Lloyd Glasspool WR 1115
QR1: (wc) Max Stewart UNR v Marcelo Demoliner (BRA) WR 753
QR1: (q8) Brydan Klein WR 410 v Paul Hanley (AUS) UNR *

* unranked in singles but a top 100 doubles player

 



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That's a bit of a ( bad ) joke, all 4 top seeds ( i.e. these theoretically seeded to qualify ) all being top 200 players.

Maybe there should be a limit of say 2 players allowed into the qualifying draw that wouldn't have got direct acceptance into the main draw if they had entered on time rather than have everyone else having a top 200 player in their qualifying section.

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Marcus got WC but struggling with injury let's hope ok by Monday and gets better draw this week 



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A1 tennis academy wrote:

Marcus got WC but struggling with injury let's hope ok by Monday and gets better draw this week 

 

Sorry to hear that (the injury, not the wildcard!). Is is his knee or his back (don't answer if you'd rather not say, obviously).

Wishing him a speedy recovery . . .



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Wang has given a walkover to Johnson

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indiana wrote:

That's a bit of a ( bad ) joke, all 4 top seeds ( i.e. these theoretically seeded to qualify ) all being top 200 players.

Maybe there should be a limit of say 2 players allowed into the qualifying draw that wouldn't have got direct acceptance into the main draw if they had entered on time rather than have everyone else having a top 200 player in their qualifying section.

I don't see the logic of limiting it to 2. All that means is that half of the players in the draw get screwed as opposed to all of them. I am increasingly of the opinion that there should be a blanket ban on anyone who would have made the main draw (original cut) from entering qualifying. Challenger qualifying is a mugs game as it is, with players often winning a couple of decent matches only to get no ranking points and no prize money. The possibility of coming up against someone who should be in the main draw only makes things even more unreasonable.



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Yes, I do see what you mean, RJA. I was just kind of thinking maybe there were occasionally reasons / justifications so at least guys would have a chance in the draw to avoid being 'screwed'. But maybe not.

Also, I hadn't quite worked out how you limit it if 4 or 5 such characters appear. First to sign in or what ?

I think this is still a thought process in progress...

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An early "result":

QR1: Luke Johnson WR 1701 beat (q1) Jimmy Wang (TPE) WR 142 by w/o!

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And as for not entering in time, then being made top seed in qualifying, and then withdrawing...

I guess good that one of these characters is removed, but talk about mucking folk about !

Half apologies if it was some sudden problem.

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steven wrote:

An early "result":

QR1: Luke Johnson WR 1701 beat (q1) Jimmy Wang (TPE) WR 142 by w/o!

Is that a Career High Ranking scalp for Luke smile

On a more serious note, what is going on. Wang has not entered the MD even though he would have got in on ranking. So he has clearly made a late decision to enter and been stuck in the qualies. Then he withdraws without hitting a ball having denied somebody else the chance to enter. If it is a case of borderline fitness due to injury perhaps he can claim some mitigating circumstances, but otherwise, that is a pretty lame effort in my book.

I doubt Luke is complaining too much though.



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Just started and they are playing indoors.

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QR1: (wc) Jay Clarke UNR lost to (q2) Nick Kyrgios (AUS) WR 160 6-2 6-1
QR1: Lewis Burton WR 819 def. (wc) Sizya Ernest Kivanda UNR 6-2 6-2


David Fox UNR having an amazingly tight match against (q7) Adrien Bossel (SUI) WR 379 - lost the first set in a TB, Currently 5*-6 in the second.

Scott Duncan and John Milton both currently way down in the first set

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Main draw

L32: (WC) Kyle Edmund WR 295 v (1) Go Soeda (JPN) WR 103 (CH 47 in 2012)
L32: Dan Smethurst WR 244 v Ante Pavic (CRO) WR 177 (CH 175 last month)
L32: (WC) Marcus Willis WR 339 v (WC) Ed Corrie WR 353
L32: (WC) Oli Golding WR 333 v Rhyne Williams (USA) WR 188 (CH 114 last Aug)
L32: Dave Rice WR 313 v (SE) Dimitar Kutrovsky (BUL) WR 329 (CH 312 in 2012)

Marcus v Ed H2H: 1-1, both 3 sets - Ed won in 2012, Marcus in 2013

Re. the first two opponents - Soeda retired in his last match, which was in RG qualies against Pavic, who went on to qualify before losing to Gilles Simon in R1.



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Soeda lost to Muller at Nottingham 1 didn't he?


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QR1: Scott Duncan WR 2015 lost to (q3) Martin Fischer (AUT) WR 180 6-2 6-1

QR1: Neil Pauffley WR 490 serving for the match v (wc) Vincent Gillespie UNR

QR1: Josh Milton WR 569 lost to (q5) Kevin King (USA) WR 331 6-3 6-4

Jathan Malik WR 874 into a third set v Sanchai Ratiwatana (THA) WR 1368

Scott Clayton lost the first 6-1

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