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I must admit I am becoming a little uneasy about how quickly Kyle is being pushed by some. There is no doubt that he has great potential, is very mature for his age and seems to have lots of good people around him. I am very positive about his prospects and will be very surprised if he doesn't make a decent career for himself. However he is currently ranked 372 in the world with just a handful of match wins apart from at futures level. The combination of wild cards into foreign ATP level events, a possible elevation into the Davis Cup team that seems a little premature and the general coverage of his progress that seems to be getting a bit sycophantic strikes me as a little dangerous. It is not hard to see how even the most grounded of young men could be adversely affected by all of this. I would like to see Kyle left to develop at his own pace rather than be pushed too far too quickly.


Overall, I agree that Kyle should focus mainly on higher level Futures and Challengers this year. But I don't think the occasional ATP WC is such a bad idea. It will give Kyle a look at what he is aiming for and could be used as a barometer of his progress. And with regard to the media coverage on those occasions etc, it is a fact of life that if you are going to be a top sportsman, learning to deal with the media attention is as much a part of the learning curve as technique and fitness.

As for the Davis Cup, if the surface were anything other than clay, Wardy and Evo would clearly be ahead on points, in my opinion, with regard to selection. On clay, it is not so clear cut. I am not saying Kyle would be the obvious choice on clay, but I think the differences between them are much smaller and current form would very much come into the decision making process.  A strong showing from Wardy in Maui could (and probably should) still see him selected ahead of Kyle. But let's not forget that when we played in Umag, Croatia had no problem in throwing Borna Coric into the singles against Andy when there were much higher ranked alternatives. It doesn't seem to have done him any harm.

I think the key to the whole situation is what you mentioned in your second sentence - that Kyle is surrounded by a lot of good people.  The way in which they approach these moments in the spotlight is paramount. And if they treat them as a learning experience without too much expectation, I don't see a problem.



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Kyle trained out in Florida with Andy and was reportedly hitting very well. Does Andy have a big say in who is no.2?

Isner has a foot injury and must be a doubt for DC - so probably Jack Sock would come in.

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Do we know for sure that James wants to play Davis Cup and is 'available for selection'?



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Do will actually have confirmation that Evo isn't playing Maui as he hasn't withdrawn from the tournament.

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Andy's "advice" re Davis Cup, particularly say what he witnessed with Kyle, should be fully taken account of, but any "say" over the team, I really do hope not ! And I actually don't think so.

I have no issue with Kyle being in the mix for consideration on clay. But ultimately we should put out the team most likely to win. Certainly this Davis Cup tie is no occasion for say adding to Kyle's "learning experience" ( though Bob maybe meant that more with regards to ATPs ), but for acting in the here and now and trying to win a winnable ( if very difficult ) tie.

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RJA wrote:

Do will actually have confirmation that Evo isn't playing Maui as he hasn't withdrawn from the tournament.


Tweet from NPA yesterday said he was training with them, so back in UK. 



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Andy's "advice" re Davis Cup, particularly say what he witnessed with Kyle, should be fully taken account of, but any "say" over the team, I really do hope not ! And I actually don't think so.

I have no issue with Kyle being in the mix for consideration on clay. But ultimately we should put out the team most likely to win. Certainly this Davis Cup tie is no occasion for say adding to Kyle's "learning experience" ( though Bob maybe meant that more with regards to ATPs ), but for acting in the here and now and trying to win a winnable ( if very difficult ) tie.


Absolutely agree that where DC is concerned, you pick the team with the best chance of winning. Anything else would be disrespectful to the team and would devalue the competition.  If it happens to be Kyle, then that will be good experience, win or lose.



-- Edited by Bob in Spain on Sunday 19th of January 2014 01:18:44 PM

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indiana wrote:

Andy's "advice" re Davis Cup, particularly say what he witnessed with Kyle, should be fully taken account of, but any "say" over the team, I really do hope not ! And I actually don't think so.


 Oh please, lets exist in the real world. If Andy wants any particular player in the Davis Cup team then they will be in the Davis Cup team. That would be the case under the vast majority of captains let alone a captain who owes his position to "Team Murray".



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Whatever you think / are sure of, I remain ( in my world ) not sure. But it certainly ( I'd like to think you agree ) shouldn't be the case.

Just as Sir Alex Ferguson's huge talents lay in managing, not recommending his successor, Andy's huge talents lie in playing, not choosing who plays with him.

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paulisi wrote:



Isner has a foot injury and must be a doubt for DC - so probably Jack Sock would come in.


 Something rather ironic about that....wink



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indiana wrote:

Whatever you think / are sure of, I remain ( in my world ) not sure. But it certainly ( I'd like to think you agree ) shouldn't be the case.

Just as Sir Alex Ferguson's huge talents lay in managing, not recommending his successor, Andy's huge talents lie in playing, not choosing who plays with him.


I certainly agree that it isn't ideal but if I were Davis Cup Captain and I had a choice between

a) Andy plays and picks the team

b) Andy doesn't play

I would recognise that there is only one sensible choice.



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I guess I agree with that, RJA ( trying to come into the real world ! ). A bad reflection on Andy though if * ( and I say if ! ) that is the position he has put folk in.

* I am aware that someone around here wasn't impressed with a separate hypothetical criticism I made recently, but I can't think of a better way to put that.

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