Week 44 - USA F29 ($10,000) - Pensacola, FL (Clay)

Salmon · Tennis legend

RE: Week 44 - USA F29 ($10,000) - Pensacola, FL (Clay)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

And he takes it on the FIRST match point - now that's good for the stomach acid.

Well done Sebastian - super result.

And so that's two British 18 year-olds who get their first ranking points today (Clay Crawford being the other) - will bump up Steven's 'number of ranked Brits' figures nicely

steven · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
And he takes it on the FIRST match point - now that's good for the stomach acid.

Well done Sebastian - super result.

And so that's two British 18 year-olds who get their first ranking points today (Clay Crawford being the other) - will bump up Steven's 'number of ranked Brits' figures nicely

The top 10 countries by number of ranked players are currently:

138 FRA
133 USA
116 GER
110 ITA
102 ARG
94 ESP
93 RUS
77 BRA
75 GBR
71 AUS

(no other countries have more than 60)

We have overtaken the Aussies already this year and we will have 76 ranked players on both 4 and 11 November, with Keelan going on next Monday and then Clay and Seb to add when Connor Glennon (who, like Seb, got his ranking point as a qualifier in Pensacola) and Joshua Jones drop off.

Spain and Russia, we're coming to get you! (now if only the average rankings of our ranked players were comparable with theirs too ...)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Not asking you to go check all the stats (!!!!). but - just wondered - do you think GB suddenly has so many more ranked players simply because we've had an abnormally large number of domestic 10ks this year and so lots of players have managed to sneak a point somehow ? Do we have a huge number of one-pointers compared to Russia and Spain, say ?
Or are there more players that have also got points abroad or got a single point here and then gone on to get more ?

steven · Tennis legend

Coup Droit wrote:
Not asking you to go check all the stats (!!!!). but - just wondered - do you think GB suddenly has so many more ranked players simply because we've had an abnormally large number of domestic 10ks this year and so lots of players have managed to sneak a point somehow ? Do we have a huge number of one-pointers compared to Russia and Spain, say ?
Or are there more players that have also got points abroad or got a single point here and then gone on to get more ?

We have 19 ranked players with just 1 point (25%), while Spain and Russia have 21 each (22-23%), so the GB proportion is marginally higher but not way out of line.

However, of the Brits with 6 points or less, only about half got all of their points in the UK, half of the rest have got them all outside the UK and the rest have a mix of both, so the 25% increase in the number of Brits in the ATP singles rankings can't all be down to increase in the number of domestic 10Ks.

However, we should allow for the increase in the number of points available in general this year (thanks to the increase in the number of Futures being held worldwide), which has resulted in a near 10% rise in the number of ranked players globally this year, probably through making the average 10K event weaker than before.

steven · Tennis legend

L16: (Q) Sebastian Rey UNR v (1) Hans Podlipnik-Castillo (CHI) WR 296 (CH 237 in Apr)

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

Seb amazingly a break up in the first set 4*-2

Maybe too good to last but you never know - maybe Hans PC doesn't like Florida . . . .

Miriambee · Futures level

however did lose the 1st set 6-4 and is 0-1* down in 2nd set.

steven · Tennis legend

Seb's 5-match winning streak here is ended by the top seed:

L16: (Q) Sebastian Rey UNR lost to (1) Hans Podlipnik-Castillo (CHI) WR 296 (CH 237 in Apr) by 4 & 2

Salmon · Tennis legend

Prodon will face HPC in the quarter final, so this'll be a good indicator of where Eric stands.

Salmon · Tennis legend

Eric is now through to the final, and he's done it without dropping more than 7 games in any of his matches. He'll face the winner of the match between Benjamin Balleret and Catalin-Ionut (Isen)Gard.

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

so it's a 32 year-old against either another 32 year-old or a 'baby' of 30 . . . .

Salmon · Tennis legend

Wow, I hadn't thought of that. It makes a nice contrast to Edgbaston, where if you leave out Simon Dickson, Goodall was the second oldest main draw player (behind Chadaj).

Salmon · Tennis legend

Are there instances of a father and son pair taking part in the same Futures/Challenger/Tour event (even qualies)? Most players start playing from the age of 16, so it's not that far-fetched: all it takes is a dad with a fantastic sense of humour.

I suppose grandfather with grandson is also possible, but I doubt that John Lackey has a 16 year old grandson who's keen on playing in the same tournament.

Salmon · Tennis legend

I didn't have DC in my mind when I asked the question, but Gordon and Matthew Asciak played doubles together (and won) in 2006 - http://www.copadavis.com/en/draws-results/tie/details.aspx?tieId=100008843

Matthew Asciak trained in the UK at one point of time and was regarded as a good prospect in his U14 days, but it looks like the only tennis he plays these days is in the DC.

I guess there'll be quite a few of such examples in the lower levels of DC. One thing that I've noticed in cricket is that if you take out the 9 best teams, a disproportionately high number of related players seem to represent their nations. I suppose there's a greater chance of a family member taking up a sport (in any country!); and in countries where a large player base doesn't exist, it's easier to represent your nation, so it's mathematically more likely that two random individuals will be good enough to get to the top.

-- Edited by Salmon on Monday 4th of November 2013 03:28:43 PM