It's easily forgotten, but Andy Murray is a master at playing the conditions, and there are times in tournaments where he abandons his preferred game in favour of simply making life as horrible as humanly possible for the opponent until they eventually capitulate....he plays the percentages. This is particularly the case in difficult conditions such as gusting winds or where the opponent has a particular weakness (eg movement).

Mr Murray doesn't, I'd suggest, consider it a blow to his pride when he doesn't just blast an inferior opponent off the court as Novak or the Fed will often do, and that he often concedes more games that the other big 4 greats. All he cares about is winning.

From what I saw today, my take is that Dan didn't really give anyway near enough respect to his opponent or to the awful conditions - in other words pride or over confidence may have got in the way - he thought he could win playing however he wanted because he's a much better player. If only matchplay worked like that.

Yes Indy. And you often sit in judgement on my opinions, many of which will be off the mark, and many will be spot on.

I have no idea of Evo's mindset. But in gale force winds against a far inferior opponent, he played a very aggressive very impatient game with many attempted return winners, many attempted groundstroke winners, many attempted dropshot winners, and not giving himself much net clearance.

Was this naive? Was this stupid or immature? I don't know. But it's certainly not a logical way of winning a match like this unless you believe you are vastly superior to the opposition in whatever weather conditions, so can pretty much play any which way you like........

...isn't that what some people might describe as "pride"

Nice way of putting it, Indy. And very fair too.

Surprised to hear that Dan is known to play poorly in the wind. With a relatively low ball toss, a superb backhand slice and excellent footwork he ought to be pretty good. There was just no need to play so aggressively, hit so deep and go for such risky shots so early in points on a freakish day like today. In my opinion, playing like this was the only possible way Dan could lose the match.

Korriban, did you watch the match?

Interesting to learn that Dan is known to not play well in the wind. Thanks, RJA.

I can accept more that he probably needs to show more respect for the conditions and realise how he needs to adapt. Maybe very rare conditions, but they can blow up, as it were, on important occasions such as US Open semi finals. So, something for Evo and his people to work on.

I still have great difficulty concluding that it is likely that he disrepected his opposition. Well, I simply don't think you can.

Well, Dan's tweet simply refers to it as a 'bad day' which, all things considered and for whatever reason, just about sums it up . . .