Week 39 - WTA $125K Series - Ningbo, China - Hard

PaulM · Tennis legend

RE: Week 39 - WTA $125K Series - Ningbo, China - Hard

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

I was wondering what had happened as my ls has broken.

Helen40 · Grand Slam Champion

we're off again, 40-0
40-15

5-3

PaulM · Tennis legend

Jo retires :(

Maybe if she'd taken one of her 5 break points in the first game of the second it would have been different. Hope the problem is nothing too serious, it's been a brilliant fortnight

korriban · Challenger level

Unfortunately Jo has retired after the second set, 2 games after the MTO.

Don't think I can be blamed for an injury, a blip in concentration maybe!

Jo. Hope it's nothing too serious - you are playing your best tennis and starting to be rewarded - good luck!

TomTraubert · Futures level

JoKo retires :(

shame

she does retire quite a lot

presume must be serious she had good chances for points and wotnot

Coup Droit · Tennis legend

PaulM wrote:
Jo retires :(

Maybe if she'd taken one of her 5 break points in the first game of the second it would have been different. Hope the problem is nothing too serious, it's been a brilliant fortnight

Absolutely.

PaulM · Tennis legend

Yeah it's a shame because a win today would have doubled her points tally for the week and it was very doable as the first set showed! Its difficult to know if it was something she picked up during the match and if so when.

tony_orient · ATP qualifying

A shame for JoKo. I think maybe she is still adjusting to an increased workload from winning so many matches recently, which is not the worst problem to have.

tony_orient · ATP qualifying

philwrig wrote:
There is a complete overhaul.
For example 220k's:

W 280
F 180
SF 110
QF 60
2R 30
1R 1

QR 18
Q3R 14
Q2R 10
Q1R 1

So definitely a swing towards winning later rounds being more important. Probably a fair move (though not good news for Laura unless she starts winning more later round matches). Also, it will play into the hands of players who are willing to travel to remote places in order to try and win the softer tournaments rather than compete in the big events which is not necessarily a good thing.

indiana · Tennis legend

With Jo now ahead of Heather in YTD points, and with Laura still having more than twice as many YTD points as Jo, but coming much more from Slams and to a lesser extent other Mandatories, I was intrigued just to see all 3 splits for the year to date ( I did just Laura's recently, showing how weighted her points were towards Slams and other Mandatories.

Some imteresting points emerge from this :

a) In spite of Laura's huge overall lead, in non Slam events she is just 70 points ahead of Jo ( 532 to 462 ) and taking out both Slams and other mandatories Jo is actually overall leader in points from the remaining tournaments, 125 points ahead of Laura ( 462 to 337 )

b) However, in actual average ranking points per remaining event, all three of Laura, Jo and Heather ( in that order ) are very close indeed, all averaging between 25 and 26 points per event.

c) Heather is still a little ahead of Jo in overall average points per event with Laura clearly well ahead of both.

1) Laura current YTD points = 1137 from 20 events ( average 56.85 ) with split :

Slam : 605 from 4 ( 151.25 )
Other Mandatories : 195 from 3 (65 )
Remaining tournaments : 337 from 13 ( 25.92 )

2) Jo current YTD points = 549 from 22 events ( average = 24.95 ) with split :

Slam : 87 from 4 ( 21.75 ) - 80 coming from 2 QR1 wins, no MD win this year.
Other Mandatories : 0
Remaing tournaments : 462 from 18 ( 25.67 )

3) Heather current YTD points = 463 from 17 events ( average = 27.24 ) with split :

Slam : 175 from 4 ( 43.75 )
Other Mandatories : 10 from 2 ( 5 ) - haven't counted Heathers zero pointer from Madrid to her events total.
Remaining tournaments : 278 from 11 ( 25.27 )

NB : the 3 Premier Mandatories completed so far are Indian Wells, Miami and Madrid with Beijing to come next week.

philwrig · Hall of fame

I was waiting for the drawsheet to be updated, and then hopefully see what the reason for withdrawal was. Alas no reason was stated for her withdrawal, so we're no clearer.
I'm hoping due to the fact that it was her 8th match in 12 days and that her 1st round was so gruelling that it is no more than wear and tear and she'll be fine after a couple of days of rest. I do know that she has to manage a lower back/ hip area problem which isn't serious but flares up from time to time especially after an intensive run of matches. This was the reason for her time on the sideline around about the FO.

Anyway the 1st set was further proof even if you needed it that Jo is playing solid top 100 tennis at the moment and that it is only a matter of time before she makes it into the top 100, of course injuries permitting.

indiana · Tennis legend

Although Phil's above table for the new 2014 WTA International points, showing less points for reaching the QF, SF and final ( current points are 280 / 200 / 130 / 70 / 30 / 1 ) and hence relatively more reward for the champion, which instinctively feels right, it is actually a pretty limited and subtle change, i.e. no accumulated points total will be more than 20 points lower than currently. So hopefully there will be no particular increased move for players to seek out softer tournaments and actually the reward for winning R1 does remain at 30 points so no loss for an immediate exit.

I find it a bit strange though that for qualifying points are going up, more particularly for losing QR2 or the FQR ( 18, 14, 10, 1 ) as against the current ( 16, 10, 6, 1 ), thus making just winning one or two qualifying rounds even more rewarding. I am rather puzzled and confused by that.

tony_orient · ATP qualifying

JoKo retired with an abdominal strain according to the BBC website

philwrig · Hall of fame

Could be worse, could be better.